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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:51 pm 
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Dont worry! It's not your "volt" :suntan:

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:22 pm 
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Well well well!

Much to my shock, the battery was reading 12.43 volts on the multimeter so it isn't totally dead. I've found out that it isn't a lead acid battery. It is one of those calcium ones so I might be able to bring it back to life. I've put the new earth cable together and I've given it a coating of white grease where it is exposed to prevent any future corrosion. I've now got the battery on charge and I'll leave it for at least 24 hours.

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2008 Citroën C4 Grand Picasso 2.0 HDi Exclusive (MA08 WCL - the modern)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:55 pm 
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A lidl multimeter?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:27 am 
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Most definitely not.
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I've had this one quite a few years. The 9v battery that I recently fitted did come from Lidl though! Their Aerocell batteries have been proven to outlast Duracell ones so I now swear by them.

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Meetings take place on the 1st Wednesday of every month at The Hollies Sports & Social Club, 12 Hough Lane, Bramley, Leeds, LS13 3NE
1972 Dolomite 1850 auto (NYE 751L - The rolling restoration)
2008 Citroën C4 Grand Picasso 2.0 HDi Exclusive (MA08 WCL - the modern)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:59 am 
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Old batteries are worth about £4.50 to scrappies at the moment

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:17 pm 
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The battery had about 36 hours on charge and nothing's caught fire or burned down. I didn't bother taking a reading because the voltage will be higher when it has just come off charging so I'll leave it for a while to get a more accurate reading.

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Meetings take place on the 1st Wednesday of every month at The Hollies Sports & Social Club, 12 Hough Lane, Bramley, Leeds, LS13 3NE
1972 Dolomite 1850 auto (NYE 751L - The rolling restoration)
2008 Citroën C4 Grand Picasso 2.0 HDi Exclusive (MA08 WCL - the modern)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:30 pm 
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Dave that charger you have is not the one with the bad reputation, I have one similar to yours different make but intelligent. Charges up very quickly from unable to crank engine over to full charge in a couple of hours. It is not however the type that can be left on permanently over winter and the instructions say as soon as possible after showing full charge take it off as it can damage the battery. Check yours it could be similar and leaving it so long may be detrimental in the long term.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:09 pm 
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I've no intention of keeping it permanently on charge. I'll see if I've actually saved this battery. I'll be taking a voltage reading tomorrow to see what it is like.

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Meetings take place on the 1st Wednesday of every month at The Hollies Sports & Social Club, 12 Hough Lane, Bramley, Leeds, LS13 3NE
1972 Dolomite 1850 auto (NYE 751L - The rolling restoration)
2008 Citroën C4 Grand Picasso 2.0 HDi Exclusive (MA08 WCL - the modern)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:50 pm 
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I didn't get round to it until today and was reading 12.8 volts. I fitted it and cranked it over and the voltage reading stayed above 10 volts so there may be hope for this battery. I've put the charger back on and I'll just leave it overnight and take it off in the morning.

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Meetings take place on the 1st Wednesday of every month at The Hollies Sports & Social Club, 12 Hough Lane, Bramley, Leeds, LS13 3NE
1972 Dolomite 1850 auto (NYE 751L - The rolling restoration)
2008 Citroën C4 Grand Picasso 2.0 HDi Exclusive (MA08 WCL - the modern)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!

Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com

"There is only one way to avoid criticsm: do nothing, say nothing and be nothing." Aristotle


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:00 pm 
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Just taken a voltage reading an it was 12.65 volts so it looks like I've saved this battery.

Sam, let me know when you can give me a hand with reviving NYE. I'd like to see RUK in the metal. A single 1850 auto is rare but two in the same place is even rarer.

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West Yorkshire Area Organiser & forum moderator
Meetings take place on the 1st Wednesday of every month at The Hollies Sports & Social Club, 12 Hough Lane, Bramley, Leeds, LS13 3NE
1972 Dolomite 1850 auto (NYE 751L - The rolling restoration)
2008 Citroën C4 Grand Picasso 2.0 HDi Exclusive (MA08 WCL - the modern)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!

Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com

"There is only one way to avoid criticsm: do nothing, say nothing and be nothing." Aristotle


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:29 am 
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My next thoughts now turn towards the ignition system. The rotor arm, cap, HT leads and spark plugs shouldn't need replacement but the plugs will benefit from a good clean. I'm going to stick with the Delco dizzy which I'd reinstated previously and I'll order a new set of points and condenser. I'm aware of poor quality ignition parts so I'll choose carefully. I'd like to fit electronic ignition but I want to get it running on points & condenser first. I've also bought a Gunsons timing light on eBay which should be better than the one I already have which seems to be a bit hit-and-miss.

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Meetings take place on the 1st Wednesday of every month at The Hollies Sports & Social Club, 12 Hough Lane, Bramley, Leeds, LS13 3NE
1972 Dolomite 1850 auto (NYE 751L - The rolling restoration)
2008 Citroën C4 Grand Picasso 2.0 HDi Exclusive (MA08 WCL - the modern)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!

Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com

"There is only one way to avoid criticsm: do nothing, say nothing and be nothing." Aristotle


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:57 pm 
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The battery is holding charge but I gave it an overnight charge last night just to keep it topped up. I'm NOT going to neglect it again. I'm considering getting a replacement Delco dizzy as the current one is a bit of an unknown due to years of non-use so there will probably be a "wanted" thread. I'm still wanting to fit electronic ignition but I'm getting a bit too ahead of myself at the moment.

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Meetings take place on the 1st Wednesday of every month at The Hollies Sports & Social Club, 12 Hough Lane, Bramley, Leeds, LS13 3NE
1972 Dolomite 1850 auto (NYE 751L - The rolling restoration)
2008 Citroën C4 Grand Picasso 2.0 HDi Exclusive (MA08 WCL - the modern)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!

Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com

"There is only one way to avoid criticsm: do nothing, say nothing and be nothing." Aristotle


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:51 pm 
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As some of you may know, I have a 12v coil which has been on the car since before I bought it. The wiring loom is HL-spec (don't ask) so it should have the ballast incorporated in it somewhere. Because I'm wanting to run points and condenser I'll need a 6v coil but before I get one ordered, I need to check the wiring to see if it is indeed ballasted. If I'm running a 12v setup (I'm 90% certain that I am) then it would explain why I had no end of trouble when I was running on points and condenser.

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Meetings take place on the 1st Wednesday of every month at The Hollies Sports & Social Club, 12 Hough Lane, Bramley, Leeds, LS13 3NE
1972 Dolomite 1850 auto (NYE 751L - The rolling restoration)
2008 Citroën C4 Grand Picasso 2.0 HDi Exclusive (MA08 WCL - the modern)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!

Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:04 am 
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You can order a 6v coil for your old volkswagen beetle because thats a 6v car but for your dolomite you need a 12v ballasted coil. Having a 12v coil in your "ballasted system" will cause no trouble, only a weaker spark at the plug. The strain on the condenser and points is even less than normal with a 12v coil in a balasted setup because of the lower current throught it.

But you can buy and try ofcourse a 6v coil first and then buy a 12v ballasted one afterwards.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:27 am 
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Yeah, you're right because it puts out 12 volts when it is cranking over on the starter motor. I'll need to check the whole ignition system before I start ordering any parts.

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Meetings take place on the 1st Wednesday of every month at The Hollies Sports & Social Club, 12 Hough Lane, Bramley, Leeds, LS13 3NE
1972 Dolomite 1850 auto (NYE 751L - The rolling restoration)
2008 Citroën C4 Grand Picasso 2.0 HDi Exclusive (MA08 WCL - the modern)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!

Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com

"There is only one way to avoid criticsm: do nothing, say nothing and be nothing." Aristotle


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