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Napoleon Dolomite - Orange 1300

#1 Post by xsquared_uk »

Hi all, I know I've been around here a few weeks but I have finally got around to starting a thread about my car. It's a 1978 Dolomite 1300, I believe the colour is vermillion but it varies from panel to panel and has had some touchups over the years so it's anyone's guess really. The car is fairly standard, I think the interior is factory except for the fitting of a CD player (think the pod might be original but not sure) - no speakers have been added or anything though - and I believe the 3 spoke wheel might be off a higher model but not 100% on that either, just seen a few 1300's online with the other type. Mine has the circular 'Dolomite' crash pad in the centre. Here are some pics as the car was advertised:

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I got her from a nice chap over near Nelson in Lancashire, oddly I never got to meet him because he was only selling the car due to working away, his parents handled things on the day and off we went. Initial thoughts were that the car was a lot of fun but using too much fuel and not really feeling quite right - it would stall at every junction unless I used choke, even when warmed up. I didn't have much time (or any money) to fiddle about with it too much, but what I did do is put some Millers VSP in there in case I'd upset the octane (the previous owner used a booster and I hadn't when I filled up) - this made no difference. I then faffed about with the timing according to a guide I found online, which made it run much better but still not right. Finally, I replaced one of the front wheel bearings because it was grinding very badly.

After that I found this forum and asked a few questions, and Toledo Man was kind enough to offer to take a look at the car for me. I popped over there and he adjusted the timing for me using a strobe light (rather than just fiddling like I did), which made a big difference. The car still wasn't quite right but it was on the way. Next up I adjusted the valve clearances because the engine was quite clattery - I just figured it was safest to start at the beginning and make sure each thing is OK before moving onwards. A few of the clearances were out - they were pretty tight, couldn't get the gauges through at all. Adjusted it all as per the book and it improved things a lot, far quieter and just generally happier. I also adjusted the mixture and the idle speed using the method in one of the books - pushing the pin and hearing the change in the engine speed. I wasn't very happy with how this went, as every time I pushed the pin the car wanted to die until I'd adjusted it quite a long way. However, I test drove it and it was much better than before to drive, very smooth on the move but rough idle and obviously running rich as you could smell it. I gave it a few days to see how it was in real world terms, it turned out to be thirsty but much more fun to drive which is why I delayed doing anything about it for a while!

Next up was the paintwork - although realistically the car needs a respray, that's not on the cards for now so I had a go with the G3 compound and Autoglym Super Resin polish. Here is a picture of the roof part way through - the near corner is being done, the rest of the roof is NOT covered with any product, that's how the paintwork was!!!

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After a good few hours work, here is the result:

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Good stuff that G3, and the Autoglym products always work well. Haven't had time to do the other panels yet but the roof was the one which I thought would come up the best as it had no scabby bits, just badly faded.

So, we're up to this weekend - I bought some new plugs and a Gunsons Colortune to have a better go at setting the mixture. First up though, I did the points gap - this was too close so I adjusted it and then changed the plugs (well fouled by now, definitely too rich) and put the Colortune on. It was orange at first and took me a while to adjust until I got the blue flame with a bit of orange. Eventually I got there and now the car runs a lot smoother and has (a little bit at least) power all through the range. It's still a bit lumpy at idle though, but I have a few more jobs to do before I look too much at that - oil and filter, plus air filter for one - didn't have any at the local shops I tried so will have to order them.

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Also something Toledo Man and I noticed - the tyres aren't too bad looking but one of them does say it was made in Yugoslavia so that makes me think it might be time to change them! In a way I'd like to keep them standard but the steel wheels aren't in good condition, neither are the hubcaps, so I might end up sticking some alloys on and looking for a decent set of steelies and caps. We'll see what comes up.

Today we managed to get the car out and over to Knowsley Safari Park - apart from being bitten by a baboon and having a number plate light stolen, the Dolomite was fine in hot weather over the hills of the M62 even with four up - I didn't thrash it but we did see 70mph at one stage, wow!

There are a few jobs on the immediate horizon - the tyres, the rest of the service items, I also need to run an accessory socket off the loom so I can power my phone and whatnot (going to be a stealth install though) - likewise need some speakers to go in. The most worrying thing at the moment is the way the rear suspension wobbles about all over the place, it handles like a canal boat so I suspect the dampers are probably shot or perhaps the springs are tired, could be the bushes... well, that one needs further investigation anyway. Engine wise I'd like to get it to idle smoothly but that is probably more of a long term thing - a few things I'll swap when I can include fuel pump, coil, condenser and points, thermostat - just so I know what's been done and also I will have known good spares then. All in good time mind, that's enough for now - hope you don't mind me babbling on!

Jimmy
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#2 Post by xsquared_uk »

Oh and I should probably explain - the kids have named the car 'Napoleon Dolomite' after the film 'Napoleon Dynamite' due to the ginger-esque paint and the general oddness of the car!

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#3 Post by JPB »

The tight clearances, exhaust valve ones by any chance? Could be recession caused by not using leaded fuel which, although it's hideously expensive in the remaining places where it's available, is the answer to preventing this, though if they're closing up you might as well whip the head off and have inserts fitted which will be a permanent solution that'll eliminate the need for the lead. :wink:
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#4 Post by xsquared_uk »

Yeah, I'll probably look at doing that longer term - for now it's a daily driver so I'm just trying to get it running pretty well, once we get another car again I'll be able to do a bit more and if I do a mini-resto and respray it I'll have the head off at the same time I guess. I can't remember which valves were tight as I was too busy faffing about with rules of nine and whatnot (never done that job before) but I think it was three or four of them so that might indeed be the reason.
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#5 Post by Oli_88 »

Tina! Come get some ham!
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Pedro offers you his protection.

I'll stop now. Excellent name for a car.
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#6 Post by DoloWIGHTY2 »

Great to see another one saved. Thanks for preserving this car. :thumbsup:
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#7 Post by Jon Tilson »

Being S reg I suspect its Flamenco.

Sadly not so common on rattle can availability as Vermillion and Pimento, the either side offerings.

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#8 Post by xsquared_uk »

I did wonder that myself - I looked at one point and then promptly forgot but I think the paint code was CAD - I've been told by a few people that it is definitely vermillion but none of them have checked and Triumph did chop and change a fair bit like you say. Either way it's orangey and it needs doing again!
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#9 Post by Aar0sc »

CAD's Flamenco - same as my Spit! (or at least half of my Spit :P )
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#10 Post by xsquared_uk »

As you can probably see though, it looks far more orange than your avatar does (if that's the one you mean) - it's possibly supposed to be Flamenco but someone has blown it over with Vermillion, or god knows what - the paint has definitely a) had some poor quality spraywork in the past and b) seen better days!
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xsquared_uk wrote:I did wonder that myself - I looked at one point and then promptly forgot but I think the paint code was CAD - I've been told by a few people that it is definitely vermillion but none of them have checked and Triumph did chop and change a fair bit like you say. Either way it's orangey and it needs doing again!
CAD is Flamenco :eyes4u: Which is the best Dolomite colour I say :mrgreen:
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#12 Post by Toledo Man »

When I took Napoleon for a short test drive I didn't notice anything seriously untoward with the back end. Having said that, it's been quite a while since I've driven a Dolomite and nearly 2 years since I've driven one legally! The original rubber bushes could well be perished. I recommend either the orange Polybush kit or the SuperFlex ones. Also, check the tie bar mountings on the axle. They can shear off. This happened to me on my Dolomite 1300 with interesting results! It just goes to show how important a job they do in keeping the rear axle taut. Unless you're sh*t hot at welding then replacement is the only option.

Mine had the same steering wheel as yours. Here's a few photos of mine.
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#13 Post by xsquared_uk »

Ha, somehow that car looks mean and aggressive, perhaps it's the equivalent of 'short man syndrome' but you wouldn't mess with it even though it's only a 1300!

My car also steers on the throttle so something is definitely amiss at the rear end. If you get it on a really bumpy track the back seems to sway about from side to side a lot, to the point where it feels like the entire back end has a mind of it's own...
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#14 Post by Toledo Man »

The twin carbs and Sprint alloys (with 185 tyres) were just two of the improvements I made. I also fitted Sprint seats which were 10 times more comfortable than the original vinyl seats. Take a look underneath and you might spot something obvious. On my Sprint I noticed that one of the clips on the end of the tie bars (which stop the nuts from coming off) was missing so I tightened up the nut and fitted a replacement clip. If you need my help you know where to find me. You don't have to wait for the weekend either. Give me a tinkle (landline or mobile) and we can arrange something during the week if you want. When I replaced the bushes on my Dolomite 1300 (another improvement I made) it transformed the back end. No more cringing when I hit a pothole or a speed hump.
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Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ

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2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!

Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
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#15 Post by Aar0sc »

xsquared_uk wrote:My car also steers on the throttle so something is definitely amiss at the rear end. If you get it on a really bumpy track the back seems to sway about from side to side a lot, to the point where it feels like the entire back end has a mind of it's own...
You should drive my Spit! Wonders about everywhere :?
All the bushes in the rear suspension are worn; but I've got a set on order ;)
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