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Resto started after 21 years in the lockup
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Author:  Mad Mart [ Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Resto started after 21 years in the lockup

You will get varying opinions on that Shaun. I say they should be fitted from the engine side (as per the manual) but others will disagree. :wink:

Author:  tony g [ Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Resto started after 21 years in the lockup

I was told to fit mine from the inside so it can't fall out, which made sense

Tony

Author:  geeksteve [ Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Resto started after 21 years in the lockup

Quote:
I was told to fit mine from the inside so it can't fall out, which made sense
Same. It hasn't disintegrated, caught fire or landed me in the hedge so I assume it's no bad thing ;)

Steve

Author:  Edin Dundee [ Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:17 pm ]
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Quote:
....the plastic bush sat in the bulkhead plate has its biggest diameter on the interior of the bulkhead rather than the engine side....is this correct?
Yes. :)

Author:  Mad Mart [ Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Resto started after 21 years in the lockup

Quote:
Quote:
....the plastic bush sat in the bulkhead plate has its biggest diameter on the interior of the bulkhead rather than the engine side....is this correct?
Yes. :)
NO!

Author:  Edin Dundee [ Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Resto started after 21 years in the lockup

We're talking about the same thing? The bush at the bottom of the steering column?
The big bit sits inside the car, the small but in the engine bay.
http://www.chriswitor.com/proddetail.php?prod=153868P

Author:  Carledo [ Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:22 pm ]
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I vote yes! big collar to top.

Steve

Author:  shaunroche [ Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Resto started after 21 years in the lockup

Deffo!

I put mine in, big bit in, as it is virtually the same size as the washer at the bottom of the steering column, thereby giving a larger bearing area than the small end...I can see though that this might offer a little too much friction perhaps?

*stoppress*

Just swapped it round and actually it does look more like it is engine side in as opposed to the above! Any movement rearwards from the steering UJ and it would pop the bush out into the footwell......

Author:  Jon Tilson [ Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Resto started after 21 years in the lockup

In several cases back in the day when I had cars where this hadnt been done since they left the factory the bush was always
fitted from inside the car as in the pic above.

Its also entirely probable that the workshop manual says to fit it round the other way. If the u/j can moves backwards enough to
push it out I think you have other more important issues to deal with.....:-)

Jonners

Author:  shaunroche [ Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Resto started after 21 years in the lockup

I'm pretty sure that when I took the plate and bush off originally, the bush was inside, but actually having had it in both orientations, I don't think it matters?

Author:  matt of the vivas [ Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Resto started after 21 years in the lockup

It should be fitted like Mart says - largest part in engine bay. That way the lip of the bush stops it moving backwards into the car, and the UJ stops it moving outwards. If you fit it the other way round the slight movement of the subframe on the rubber mounts will work the bush off its lip and inside the car. Thats why its designed the way it is.
Its also the way shown in all the manuals, and the way my 10,000 mile from new Dolomite had its original bush fitted.
Matt.

Author:  davy67 [ Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:33 pm ]
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Thanks again for that info Jonners, I'll check the u/j. Chassis repair done.

David

Author:  Edin Dundee [ Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:31 pm ]
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Quote:
It should be fitted like Mart says - largest part in engine bay. That way the lip of the bush stops it moving backwards into the car, and the UJ stops it moving outwards. If you fit it the other way round the slight movement of the subframe on the rubber mounts will work the bush off its lip and inside the car. Thats why its designed the way it is.
Its also the way shown in all the manuals, and the way my 10,000 mile from new Dolomite had its original bush fitted.
Matt.

Hmmm, Is this now the definitive answer? Sounds logical.....

Author:  Carledo [ Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Resto started after 21 years in the lockup

Well I'm not taking mine out to turn it over!

Steve

Author:  sprint95m [ Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:48 am ]
Post subject:  Hmmm.......

Quote:
Quote:
It should be fitted like Mart says - largest part in engine bay. That way the lip of the bush stops it moving backwards into the car, and the UJ stops it moving outwards. If you fit it the other way round the slight movement of the subframe on the rubber mounts will work the bush off its lip and inside the car. Thats why its designed the way it is.
Its also the way shown in all the manuals, and the way my 10,000 mile from new Dolomite had its original bush fitted.
Matt.

Hmmm, Is this now the definitive answer? Sounds logical.....
At the bottom of the steering column shaft is a washer. This will stop the bush from sliding up the shaft (and into the car).
The original bushes break up over time.

There should not be any movement of the subframe. Worn bushes or (in more drastic cases) failed cup washers will allow this.
Any likely movement is of the steering rack relative to the subframe (and therefore the car). The OE s/rack bushes have a short lifespan. This
is detrimental to the lower steering coupling.


The Superflex bush can be fitted either way round.



Ian.

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