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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:43 pm 
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We managed to get a good pedal when we bled the brakes on Andy P's SE at the recent Restoration Show. We were going to take the master cylinder off but we decided to just bleed the brakes and it seems to have worked. We cleaned everything up and made sure it was all moving freely as Triumph intended on the rear brakes.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:09 pm 
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We've had the rear brakes to bits and all cleaned up, everything was working as it should, if you pump the pedal with the engine running the "BRAKE" light does flicker and you can hear the engine note drop.

Can the brake balancer valve on the bulkhead be removed and cleaned?. I've ordered a set of front and rear brake flexi hoses now also to be on the safe side.

These are my current photos of the car, I still need to finished the front end although I'm wait for a friend to come over and weld up the valance and patch the inner rear arches up for me, I've already treated the rust underneath (which was only surface rust) and undersealed it all.

Image1979 Triumph Dolomite 1500 SE by Triggers Retro Road Tests, on Flickr

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Image1979 Triumph Dolomite 1500 SE by Triggers Retro Road Tests, on Flickr

Image1979 Triumph Dolomite 1500 SE by Triggers Retro Road Tests, on Flickr

Image1979 Triumph Dolomite 1500 SE by Triggers Retro Road Tests, on Flickr

Image1979 Triumph Dolomite 1500 SE by Triggers Retro Road Tests, on Flickr

Image1979 Triumph Dolomite 1500 SE by Triggers Retro Road Tests, on Flickr

Image1979 Triumph Dolomite 1500 SE by Triggers Retro Road Tests, on Flickr

I've painted the wheels and fitted new rubber but I'm on the lookout for better chrome trim rings as mine are very corroded.

Image1979 Triumph Dolomite 1500 SE by Triggers Retro Road Tests, on Flickr

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:59 pm 
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Bodywork's looking great, it's polished up really well.
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Can the brake balancer valve on the bulkhead be removed and cleaned?
I assume you're referring to this...

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If so then yes, it can easily be refurbished, it's actually a PDWA (pressure differential warning actuator) valve, don't worry, everyone calls it a balance valve! :D I would recommend replacing the seals at the same time.

Have a look at my restoration thread here

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=27969&start=255

If the brake light is flickering on then given how the valve works I would say that there may be a leak in the system somewhere or a big air bubble. The H valve inside the unit is being pushed across by the higher pressure side of the system triggering the switch. Have a look at the thread, you'll understand how it works and that should help you diagnose the problem.

EDIT: It's upside down in the picture btw!!


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:21 pm 
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That's brilliant thanks James, I've just spent a while looking through your thread which is a great help. I think the way forwards is to order a seal kit for the PDWA valve and see if that fixes things.

I see Robsport sells one that's about £10 cheaper than Rimmers, I'm just waiting to find out it's definitely the same one first before ordering it though. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-STAG- ... 1507277080?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:32 pm 
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No worries!

That's the one, can't remember where I got mine from but Robsport are great. They come with two sizes of o ring, just make sure you use the right one, it's pretty easy to identify tbh.

If you can get some, castrol red rubber grease is the best stuff to use to assemble it.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:36 pm 
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Lovely jubbly, I'm not that experienced with mechanics but thankfully my dad is! When we rebuilt the master cylinder we used same red castrol grease so I know he's got some of that!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:19 pm 
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I'm a bit behind here! I'd better sort that, so a few weeks back my mates pop round to help weld up the front valance at last.

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I must say considering he's not a welder he done a cracking job of it, all it cost me was a chocolate cake and I've offered to give him a lift to collect a MG ZT tomorrow. My other mate came in his Marina that he's just back on the road after sitting in a garage since 1985.

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So back to the Dolly, after that i got the corners filled, some Kurust on it and then etched and primed.

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The repairs looked better than i expected so i flatted the primer back and prepped for the paint work.

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To be honest I was really surprised with how well the repairs and work came out using rattle cans, it's as good as a £500+ professional job.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:26 pm 
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After the paint had dried i gave it a good polish and i then had the part i enjoy the most which was fitting all the brightwork back on.

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The hardest part was fitting the front spoiler back on, where the ends had rotted off it has damaged the end holes of the spoiler so i couldn't use them again meaning i had a gap between the body and spoiler on the ends.

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after a bit of thinking i decided tiger seal was the way to go so i bolted it on and ran some sealer on top before clamping it with some mole grips and jacking the ends to crushing them against the bodywork over night to dry which seems to have worked.

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That looks better!

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I even took it for a 50 mile drive to give it a go run and iron out any problems.

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I must say it drives lovely now, the clutch was a bit juddery at first but that's gone now and it seems to be improving the more it's used.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:35 pm 
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This afternoon i went out and got some decent photos, I still need to weld up 2 patches inside the rear wheel arch (hence no underseal) and the PDWA still needs it seals changing (The light goes out after a while now) and i need to change all the brake hoses and rear tie bar bushes but it's getting there.

Image1979 Triumph Dolomite 1500 SE by Triggers Retro Road Tests, on Flickr

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Image1979 Triumph Dolomite 1500 SE by Triggers Retro Road Tests, on Flickr

This radio is pretty rubbish, I've had it apart and have cleaned it but it's still keeps cutting out and dropping signal all the time.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:39 pm 
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Wow! That looks fantastic. You even managed to preserve the SE stripes too. Well done.

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Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Old Brickworks, Wakefield Road, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1EA

1972 Dolomite 1850 auto (NYE 751L - Now for sale)
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - another project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!

Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:52 pm 
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That does look brilliant, a credit to you, now enjoy useing it.

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Incredibly good looking both inside and out.

Brings a heartfelt warm feeling.

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Looks great , well done :) , you need to put your front lights/ indicators on the right way though , side lights on the outside and indicators on the inside :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


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Lol Glenn that old chestnut again....

We've even got pics of them fitted each way on the same car out of the factory somewhere...

But I do agree that by the time SE's were about they had the new style (err cheaper and nastier) light units
which always seem to be sidelights outwards...

Just add my compliments to a cracking bit of body repair work there. It really does look as good as a decent pro
would achieve in the pics...

Well done.

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Lol Glenn that old chestnut again....

We've even got pics of them fitted each way on the same car out of the factory somewhere...

But I do agree that by the time SE's were about they had the new style (err cheaper and nastier) light units
which always seem to be sidelights outwards...

Just add my compliments to a cracking bit of body repair work there. It really does look as good as a decent pro
would achieve in the pics...

Well done.

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I know Jon i could not resist lol :) but they are the right way round at the start of the thread :)


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