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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:51 pm 
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Hello!, It's been a while so i thought I'd update with what I've been up to, That hub puller arrived, it's perfect for the job, I still haven't done the bearing but once I have I'll be selling it back on.

Meanwhile this has happened...

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which thankfully resulted in this!

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Yay!, To be honest i was pretty worried as It was a massive relief when i passed! On that bombshell i decided to get brave and me and dad tackled the head gasket which was leaking oil.

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Off with it's head!

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The gasket was proper knackered so it was no wonder it was leaking, the head was also cleaned up.

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The block was also fully cleaned and the new Payne gasket fitted.

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head and rockers all refitted and torqued up.

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Now this was Saturday before last and where we had got too, over the last week my phone broke and I've got a really rubbish temporary phone at the moment with a potato as a camera so i have no photos for this next bit but yesterday dad was back over and we managed to get to all back together again, the lower exhaust manifold bolts were a sod to get back in but everything else was ok, then a quick turn of the key and it fired straight up, result!

I gave it a good 30 mile road test today with the wife and our 3 month old daughter to feed the ducks at a village pond, it's performing brilliantly now, in fact it's a far nicer drive than my Mk3 Cortina 2000 XL. If it had a little more power I'd go as far as saying it's one of the best classic cars I've owned!.

I took these this afternoon in a little village in Suffolk, It's quite the photowhore.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:48 pm 
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Congrats on the MoT pass. It is looking good and running great and you're even starting to enjoy it. Those photos are almost period perfect.

Keep up the good work.

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Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Old Brickworks, Wakefield Road, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1EA

1972 Dolomite 1850 auto (NYE 751L - Now for sale)
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - another project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:31 pm 
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Those could be contemporary brochure pics.........lovely!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:43 am 
Lovely stuff... :wink:


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:32 pm 
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mint pictures and well done :D

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 10:10 pm 
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Hello, I thought I'd make a bit of a update, Last week i dropped the car off at a local mechanic i know, the clutch was juddering, the wheel bearing was noisy and i wanted the carbs and tappets tightened.

I got it back yesterday having at the clutch done, the old one was cracked and the springs rattles plus the rear crack oil seal was leaking, i ended up having both rear wheel bearings done, thank god i bought that tool and he also adjusted the tappets and blanced the carbs for me, all for £125 which i think is cheap enough, now it is so much quieter to drive, no grumbling from the rear end and no tappet noise, happy days!.

The only issue is that the clutch is still juddering?. It seemed ok at first but I've done about 60 miles in it today and it's got worse, could this be from the prop? also when it gets hot it sometimes splutters a bit and doesn't start very easily, like fuel vaporization?. Is this common on these?.

Other than that i still love the old girl!.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:29 pm 
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Juddering is also a symptom of worn rear tie bar bushes...in fact check all the rear bushes first and then move forwards along the drive chain as it may also be related to engine mounts, prop carrier, gearbox mount etc.
SuperFlex from Chris Witor seems to be a good choice for bushes.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:16 pm 
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I answered this on the F-B thread....so have a look at the prop centre bearing carrier...and engine mounts etc like Matienzo said.

I suspect you have waxstat carbs on yours....no bad thing but the jets must be kept clean and he heat shield between carbs and exhaust manifold is essential to stop the wax pellets over expanding and leaning out your idle mixture, which will give the symptoms you describe.

New heat shields are readily available from Moss etc and are common to Spits and midgets.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:23 pm 
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Right I've just had a little look under it, everything looks exactly as it should, i can't see no damaged bushes or pipework in the wrong place. The only thing i have spotted though that theres fresh oil drips coming from between the bellhousing and the engine, maybe it's leaking oil again inside the clutch?

I also checked the heat sheld you spoke off Jonners and mines still there and fully intact.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:58 am 
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Can you tell if its engine oil or gearbox oil?

Box oil can get on the clutch. Engine oil tends not to and goes down behind the flywheel - and you had this seal changed.
Some new seals do have issues with inadequate spring tension though.

The gearbox oil will be thicker and smell different. Hard to tell with such small quantities. Sadly needs box out again to sort it.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:50 pm 
I had the same juddering on my 1500TC, it ruined the experience of driving it and I sold it shortly afterwards.

Silly but there you go.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:38 pm 
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I've been rubbish keeping this thread updated but much has been happening in camp Dolly, following up from last time the garage had the car back in again and 2 weeks later after lots of moaning they managed to fix the juddering, I forget exactly what the problem was but i think it may have been a internal gearbox seal which was still leaking and contaminating the new clutch, they had the box back out again, replaced the seal, cleaned the clutch up and it's perfect again now, and they didn't charged me either.

Over the summer i done a number of shows including the BMC/BL Show in Peterborough and it performed fine other than it's cutting out issue when hot, me and dad went for the 2p waxstat conversion on the carbs, so far this seems to have cured the issue but during all this we found another... :roll:

This time we noticed the car was running on 3 cylinders, it's always been splutterly when you revved it but i didn't think much off it and as it's quite course sounding and tappey you couldn't really hear it, if you took the plug of cylinder 3 the idle wouldn't change like the others so we done a compression test, Cyl 1 was 180, 2 was 130.. Oh, 3 was 150 and 4 was 180 again, that wasn't a good sign so we whipped the head off again for a better look.

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That doesn't look good, god knows how we missed it when he did the head gasket a few months back, i guess it's because we wasn't looking for it, our first theory was that it had burnt away because of years of unleaded fuel eating away at it but I've had the away head to a specialist during the week who's said it looks like it's cracked inside the port (you can see this in the photo) and thinks water has been corroding it over the years and eaten away the casting. He wants £90 just to pressure test it and said that if it is cracked then the heads scrap anyway as it can't be welded so I'm now on the hunt for a replacement head if any of you lovely people have one for sale?.

Mean while I've fitted a Powerspark electronic ignition kit to see if that helps with things and then to turned my concentration to the matt paintwork again, it had gone like chalk board and was starting to put me off the car if I'm honest, even to the point that i bought another toy and forgotten about the Dolly for the a bit.

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So this week whilst it was in the garage I've been flatting the paintwork back with firstly some 1500 wet & dry and working down to some 2000 then 2500 before machine polishing it with some Farecla G3 compound paste and then some Farecla G10 fine polish, I still need to do the front end and then give the whole car a few hand polishes and a wax but hopefully this will be enough to transform it, It certainly looks like a different car already!.

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I tell you, by the time i've finished doing the head it's going to be like a new car again with the amount of work and new parts it's had!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:47 pm 
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Start a "wanted" thread for a replacement head.

Love the P6 too.

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Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Old Brickworks, Wakefield Road, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1EA

1972 Dolomite 1850 auto (NYE 751L - Now for sale)
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - another project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!

Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:49 pm 
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There's been progress on this, although a bit slow, I shined the giant "D" into the night sky like Batman or He-Man and thankfully a TDC member came forth and offered me a good head!

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I gave it a good clean, repaint and ordered some new springs to replace the broken ones before lapping in the valves.

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I was going to spent £200 getting the head converted but i was advised that it's probably not worth it, especially as i won't be doing many miles it it, just keep using the additive instead.

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annoyingly one of the rocker shaft nuts stripped whilst i was torquing it up so i had to wait for a set of replacement nuts to arrive from Canley Classics.

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A few days later after finishing putting it back together we ran it up, annoyingly it was running on two! we done a compression test again, it had 175 psi on all four cylinders so that ruled out the valves, next up we tried the electrics as i just fitted a Powerspark ignition thinking i may of done it wrong, everything was fine with a good spark, then it clicked that we had the front carb off and it was the two front cylinders that weren't running right, we think a jet has clogged up with shite whilst it was on the floor, it was 10pm by this point and as i'm not confident and stripping carbs I'm waiting for my dad to come over at the weekend to help me.

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Next job was to fit a modern USB stereo inside the glovebox, stealth style, Halfords sell a nice Pioneer system which is much more shallow than a CD player and fits in the glovebox with tones of room for £37 so i bought one of them as well as a plastic surround to fit it in for £10, I cut the surround to fit the angled shape of the glovebox with a grinder.

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and screwed it in.

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I wired a new consent live direct from the fuse box and fitted a inline fuse and ran all the wiring behind the dash as well as fitted a aerial extension lead.

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As you can see i refitted the original radio again to fill the hole so once the glovebox is closed it all looks original and standard again.

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I'm really pleased with how this little job came out, ok it's no pumping sound system with it's single speaker but it's perfect for what I want. The bodywork all looks perfect now as well after MUCH work, once it's dried and the cars running fine again I'll get some outisde photos.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:29 pm 
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So the other weekend dad came over to sort out this running issue, we removed the carbs and gave then a good clean, refitted them, re timed the car and voila it's running perfect again! Took it on a road test and it's spot on, it's quite grumbly at higher revs but I'm guessing that's standard for a OHV?.

Yesterday i took it for a drive to get some decent photos since I redone the paintwork, She's looking pretty nice now i think.

ImageMy 1979 Triumph Dolomite 1500 SE by Triggers Retro Road Tests, on Flickr

ImageMy 1979 Triumph Dolomite 1500 SE by Triggers Retro Road Tests, on Flickr

ImageMy 1979 Triumph Dolomite 1500 SE by Triggers Retro Road Tests, on Flickr

ImageMy 1979 Triumph Dolomite 1500 SE by Triggers Retro Road Tests, on Flickr

ImageMy 1979 Triumph Dolomite 1500 SE by Triggers Retro Road Tests, on Flickr

ImageMy 1979 Triumph Dolomite 1500 SE by Triggers Retro Road Tests, on Flickr

ImageMy 1979 Triumph Dolomite 1500 SE by Triggers Retro Road Tests, on Flickr

I think I've done the old girl justice considering how she looked when i first got her, It's like a transformed car now.

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