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 Post subject: X reg sprint new project
PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:38 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:52 pm 
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That's one hell of a project!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:00 pm 
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You're supposed to encourage them Steve!

Full cill panels and a front valance on the roof...


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:20 pm 
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You're supposed to encourage them Steve!

Full cill panels and a front valance on the roof...
And looks like a pair of front wings on the floor behind it!

I didn't say it wasn't do-able! It's not much worse than my Vermillion shell was!

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With regard to the VIN number, I've had Mahesh's W reg car here recently and I have an ID for another W reg Sprint, which is exactly 201 cars later than Mahesh's car, we were comparing them only yesterday! I cant remember the numbers but my gut says both are later than this one at 110671. I think ours are in the 112xxx range. I'll check my plate tomorrow and report back. Does anyone know the number of the last one? I believe that, though the coded model letters changed, all VIN plated Dolomites ran in the same number sequence. It's possible this car was exported and repatriated. Any car repatriated and registered in the UK before 1/8/83 (the day the "A" prefix was introduced) would not have been issued an age related plate.

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'72 Triumph 1500FWD in Slate Grey, Now with RWD and Carledo powertrain!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:24 pm 
Interesting i was told some 25 years ago when I had my last sprint that the later models had a lsd on them is that true and how would I find out


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:13 pm 
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After September 1st 1979 all Dolomite models did indeed have consecutive numbers but with coded letters to describe the model type; the last, a Sprint (on a W plate) was 113504.

Some later cars had LSD fitted. The only real way to check for LSD is to open up the back cover and look!

The chassis number would have an 'S' suffix had it been factory fitted, as would the axle number. The axle case should be painted red. Both rear wheels should spin in the same direction when the back axle is raised and if one rear wheel is lifted off the floor you shouldn't be able to turn it in isolation, but all of these could be 'red herrings'


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:46 pm 
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Steve, I have a list of the last 10 Sprint chassis numbers inc colour and trim, NWL is one of the last 10


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:13 pm 
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"Late Sprints had an LSD" is just an urban myth i'm afraid!

The LSD was offered as a cost option from quite early on, early 74 perhaps, it being a homologation special for the race and rally cars. But I know of several very late cars that don't have LSDs. The Sprint axle in my Toledo came from a W reg car in the 112xxx series and that, unfortunately for me, is an open diff! Pretty sure James' car (from the last 10 made) is an LSD free zone too, as is Mahesh's 112xxx series car.
You might be lucky, but don't hold your breath!

As Alun said, factory fitted LSDs had an S on the end of the number and were painted red. but this is not definitive as I have seen LSDs in stock cases. The best test is to jack up the axle and turn one rear wheel. If the other wheel goes in the opposite direction, it's an open diff, if it goes in the same direction it's an LSD!

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'78 Sprint Auto with Vauxhall Omega 2.2 16v engine (The Dolomega)
'72 Triumph 1500FWD in Slate Grey, Now with RWD and Carledo powertrain!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:07 am 
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As Alun said, factory fitted LSDs had an S on the end of the number and were painted red. but this is not definitive as I have seen LSDs in stock cases. The best test is to jack up the axle and turn one rear wheel. If the other wheel goes in the opposite direction, it's an open diff, if it goes in the same direction it's an LSD!
Not conclusive; a welded up diff or binding brake shoes can cause this


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:53 pm 
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Looks to have already had a new inner cill fitted to the driver's side.

The lose new panels alone have a value of about £1k plus.

What's the story with the Carmine car next to it? 1850?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:18 pm 
Yh your right inner sill already ready fitted and most of the parts to finish rear arches are a bit rotten floors are solid which is obviously good the red car is a 1850 it came with the sprint as a parts car


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:09 pm 
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Parts car? It looks reasonable from the glimpses shown!

There is a strengthener diaphragm panel that fits between the inner and outer cil sections.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:49 am 
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Wow!..a rare car indeed..I've never seen an Inca X reg before..superb stuff and well saved! 8)


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:52 am 
Yh fella had both cars he was in the process of restoring the sprint and the 1850 came as part of the deal it's in pretty good shape tbh yh I've the the strengthened sections to might need rear quarters but all other panels are with car need a bonnet which I can source from the 1850 a lot if work but it's worth saving the old girl


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I think its a great find and its really nice to see that you're going to try and save her. Definitely worth it if you ask me, but as a dolly lover I'm biased! I have a spare late nose badge of you want it.

I have a wild suggestion, sell the outer front panel and use club glass wings and front end. The money you get for the outer panel would more than cover it I think. The club will do you the inner valence repair panels and the rest looks like sheet metal fab work on the front end. The A pillars look OK, if they are holed check that water hasn't got inside and killed the bulkhead but they look ok from a distance. You can see how I repaired mine on my RUK resto thread.

If you do decide to break the 1850 then give me a shout, I'll take some parts off of your hands, engine, gearbox, prop etc.... I'll come with the Land Rover and fill her up! :wink:

Start a resto thread and get on it! :thumbsup:


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