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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:09 pm 
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The underside: Im thinking I will wire brush it with a drill/angle grinder (that will be a fun job) and then neutralize the rust with something (any recommendations ?) and then underseal it with something suitable, Im told hammerite do a product for undersealing?
As far as I understand it, rust neutralisers don't really work. The only solution to rust is to remove it all, otherwise it will come back, eventually.
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I cant find any one out here that would replate the various small brackets in the suspension. Is there an alternative to doing this? Is there some kind of paint that will work instead - some sort of galvanizing paint or similar. And rather than getting the suspension components blasted I might just use the wire brush in a drill and paint them myself. I did this with the stag and it seemed to work quite well - or well enough for my purposes
I'll be doing my Toledo suspension with POR15. It goes extremely hard. Not cheap though. Infomercial.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:08 pm 
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Yes and having used it on my Imp its awful stuff to work with. Having a quick look on the net there seem to be a lot options available than when I used POR 15 on my Imp back in the day, hope fully there's a spray on option. Now I think about it I should do the wheel archs as well.
Seems strange that other Toledo I had underseal and this one dosent

Should I put any form of etch primer or anything on first ? I think not from memory?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:21 pm 
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You can spray POR15 if you thin it, you need the correct respirator.

No primer, but use the degreaser and metal prep. I've done the brake drums so far and found it easy to work with. I'm going to be doing the subframe and rest of the suspension this weekend.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:56 pm 
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Does the Vehicle commission number tell em if the car was originally a 1300 or a 1500?

Ive noticed that this car doesn't have brake booster which the previous toledo did have. The parts acr did have one so im going to clean it up and put it in this car

The Commission number for this car is ADF 28870 DL

When I bought this car it was on the understanding that the registration was on hold however turns out that the registration has expired so I will have to get it re registered when the time comes, not sure if there are any ways around this.

SO ive started tidying up some of the parts to go back in the car including the brake booster - stripped it back with a cup brush on the angle grinder and will get some red etch primer on it soon, next it the blower which i may strip with paint stripper before etch primer and then black satin finish.

photos soon.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:52 pm 
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Does the Vehicle commission number tell em if the car was originally a 1300 or a 1500?
Yes

*ADG or ADH — these prefixes denote ‘Toledo’ model
range with 1300 cm3 engine and 2-door body.
ADF or ADK — these prefixes denote ‘Toledo’ model
range with 1300 cm3 engine and 4-door body.
ADM — this prefix denotes ‘Toledo’ model range with
1500 cm3 single-carburetter engine and 2-door
body.
ADP — this prefix denotes ‘Toledo’ model range with
1500 cm3 single-carburetter engine and 4-door
body.
ADS — this prefix denotes ‘Toledo’ model range with
1500 cm8 twin-carburetter engine and 4-door
body.**


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:16 am 
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Your ADF commission number makes the car a 1300 4 door model, built before about September 73 (when the ADK update was introduced) this also explains the lack of a brake booster (and, I guess, the drum front brakes that it SHOULD be fitted with) as the booster and discs were only fitted on ADK 4 door 1300, ADH 2 door 1300 and 1500cc models. No need to panic though, as all the later parts from your donor car are bolt on replacements.

Steve

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:38 pm 
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Thanks Steve.

Didnt think about the front brakes! - I haven't looked at them yet but I expect they are drums.

I'll have to think about the most best upgrade option.

Importing tracker jack brakes will probably be too expensive but are dolly sprint brakes a straight bolt on?

Whats the best option for what will be an uprated 1500?

Im half way through repainting the blower at present and have switched the ignition for the one out of the previous Toledo however I notice it has a different plug where it connects to the main loom - no worries though I think once I get a battery and the engine/gearbox in I will get a sparky to go over the electrics and check everything is working correctly.

I notice also that the fuse box is missing - any suggestions on a modern replacement?

I've put one of the black seats out of the old car in just to see how it looks - a black interior with in a Emerald green car looks pretty smart! Most of the trim in this car is out and fortunately the trim from the old car was in very good shape so I will be able to install that straight in. And i there's a local outfit in NZ that makes carpet kits for classic cars so Ill get a black carpets kit. Will be good to be able get the interior sorted fairly easily.

cheers

Alastair

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:08 pm 
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Save for the pads, (which are a harder compound for Sprint) and the size of the booster, the disc brake fitment for all Dolomite/Toledo models is exactly the same! (which, as you may have worked out from the popularity of the TJ conversion, make the Sprint a tad underbraked) You will need to acquire the full bit, caliper, disc, hub and including the suspension upright/stub axle but yes, it just bolts on!

On wiring plug discrepancies, this is another result of the early/late swap. early cars have grey moulded plugs and later ones have white Lucas/Rists plugs which the pins CAN be removed from. Colour codes should match at least, but the best thing to have done would have been to remove and swap in the entire loom from the donor. Isn't hindsight great?

You can get the stock 2 fuse box for pennies from a number of UK suppliers, or upgrade to 2 of them, fit a 4 fuse lucas box from a Spitfire/MGB, or any number of aftermarket blade fuse boxes containing from 4 to 16 fuses. It just depends on money, patience and how far you actually want to go! Anything is possible, my Vauxhall powered Sprint Auto, now has 22 fuses in 2 fuse boxes and 11 relays to complement it's 3 discrete wiring looms. But building the looms took me WEEKS of tedious work! I always did have a tendency to go a bit OTT with electrics!

Steve

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2 door '73 Toledo with Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 8v engine OWF 797M (The Carledo)
'78 Sprint Auto with Vauxhall Omega 2.2 16v engine EGP 247T (The Dolomega)
'91 Cavalier 2ltr 8v auto
'95 Cavalier 2ltr 16v auto
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