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Author: | xvivalve [ Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:51 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dolomite Sprint Automatic - Newcastle |
That would depend on how original it was... |
Author: | Carledo [ Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dolomite Sprint Automatic - Newcastle |
Not on my list of Sprint autos known to the club. Well it is now! In theory, commission number must be higher than VA 2000 because those before were all Mimosa yellow, however this one may have been resprayed white as an over VA 2000 comm number doesn't fit well with it's pre 31/7/73 reg number. Any true L reg Sprint is going to be an early car, but I have seen Sprint running gear built into early 1850s to get a tax exemption under the old pre 73 rules. I'm gonna dive off and see what DVLA has to say about it! Steve EDIT, DVLA gives it a DOFR in June 73, White and 1998cc. Now the Sprint was only launched to the public in June 73 (correct me if i'm wrong, Alun) and all the first 2000 cars were yellow! It's either a VERY early car, resprayed white, or a ringer, built into an early Dolomite shell. Without a comm number, its anybodies guess which! |
Author: | xvivalve [ Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:24 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dolomite Sprint Automatic - Newcastle |
This is VA203...well, it purports to be... |
Author: | sprint95m [ Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:21 am ] |
Post subject: | Hmm…... |
You can change the colour and the transmission type on a V5C. Ian. |
Author: | Carledo [ Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:30 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dolomite Sprint Automatic - Newcastle |
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This is VA203...well, it purports to be...
Leaving aside for a moment, the possibilty that the car has been reshelled, if it is carrying VA 203, then that means it WAS originally a Sprint auto and it is the oldest surviving one known to the club (ie on my list) by a considerable margin, the next newest being on an N plate!Steve |
Author: | xvivalve [ Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:50 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dolomite Sprint Automatic - Newcastle |
This car was discussed at length last summer when it was sold several times, it was owned by Tom Bolstridge who did the auto conversion, and consensus was the paint colour of that shell hadn’t changed. |
Author: | xvivalve [ Sat Jul 28, 2018 1:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dolomite Sprint Automatic - Newcastle |
It's still a good spot...and still a Dolomite |
Author: | Toledo Man [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:50 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dolomite Sprint Automatic - Newcastle |
Steve, aren't you aware of MikeyB's French blue Sprint Auto VA27471 which was a 1974 car? His (aborted) resto thread is HERE. Back in October 2011 I did a bit of "research" and there was only one older Sprint auto (a 1973 car). Could this be it? |
Author: | Carledo [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:25 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dolomite Sprint Automatic - Newcastle |
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Steve, aren't you aware of MikeyB's French blue Sprint Auto VA27471 which was a 1974 car? His (aborted) resto thread is HERE. Back in October 2011 I did a bit of "research" and there was only one older Sprint auto (a 1973 car). Could this be it?
From reading Mikey's thread, VA2741 DLA was TOAST in 2011, does it even still exist? At least in any meaningful form?VA203 (the white car) seems to be (not to be rude) a bit of a hybrid and at first glance appears to have little resemblance between the comm number and the actual car. It's said to have been Green at one point and it's current shell has been judged by credible witnesses to have always been white, when, of course, it should have originally been Mimosa. It may not even have been auto originally! So there MAY be another 73 registered car out there! If there is, nobody knows where it is! Steve |
Author: | xvivalve [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dolomite Sprint Automatic - Newcastle |
The auto' 'box came available as an optional extra at the same time as laminated 'screens in autumn '73. I would suggest this would be after the initial 2000 on two bases; the first 2000 were manufactured speculatively, before specific orders were received from the dealers and they would therefore have all been standard equipment (this may explain why none of them had overdrive as that necessitated a different gearbox as the main output shaft is different). The automatic would not only require a different gearbox, but also propshaft, brake pedal and omission of the clutch pedal/hydraulics and different internal trim, so these would likely be factory ordered cars rather than dealer altered; the VIN also had an 'A' suffix which would have been registered by the factory. Given the total production number in 1973, the first 2000 would all have been made prior to the autumn using simple interpolation. Also, the previous owner of 203 told me he'd converted it. |
Author: | Carledo [ Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:47 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dolomite Sprint Automatic - Newcastle |
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The auto' 'box came available as an optional extra at the same time as laminated 'screens in autumn '73.
Except for the inconvenient fact that a previous owner told you it was converted, there would have been a case to be made that this was the factory development car for the auto. a) it's white, development car colour, b) the Dolomite (1850) was already available with the model 65 fitted so most of the bits would already have been at hand. It's even less needful to alter the trans angle for the auto than the manual, as there is no solid connection between shifter and trans, just a floppy rod so shifter position is irrelevant to engine trans position in the car. So long as the trans sump pan is more or less horizontal, you're good to go! PS anybody actually KNOW if the 1850 and Sprint autos share a bellhousing?I would suggest this would be after the initial 2000 on two bases; the first 2000 were manufactured speculatively, before specific orders were received from the dealers and they would therefore have all been standard equipment (this may explain why none of them had overdrive as that necessitated a different gearbox as the main output shaft is different). The automatic would not only require a different gearbox, but also propshaft, brake pedal and omission of the clutch pedal/hydraulics and different internal trim, so these would likely be factory ordered cars rather than dealer altered; the VIN also had an 'A' suffix which would have been registered by the factory. Given the total production number in 1973, the first 2000 would all have been made prior to the autumn using simple interpolation. Also, the previous owner of 203 told me he'd converted it. Oh, and Mikey, if you read this, what happened to VA 2741DLA? is it just a paper car now? You can PM me if you don't wish to publish it! Steve |
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