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 Post subject: Fibreglass Wings
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:02 pm 
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Do the TDC fibreglass wings have to be glued on to the rest of the car? Can they be bolted instead, for easy removal?

If gluing is the only way, which glue to use?

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 Post subject: Re: Fibreglass Wings
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I was thinking the same. The problem is fitting bolts to the seam on the a post.

Steve has used tigerseal to glue them on.


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 Post subject: Re: Fibreglass Wings
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I'll check how my Land Rover wings are fitted. I think they had a small bracket at the back to bolt to.

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 Post subject: Re: Fibreglass Wings
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I was thinking the same. The problem is fitting bolts to the seam on the a post.

Steve has used tigerseal to glue them on.
I suppose you cannot dismantle them then right?

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 Post subject: Re: Fibreglass Wings
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Nuts and bolts, self tappers, rivets, tiger seal, a combination of several, or all of them!

The GRP wings have a flange to meet with the A post flange exactly the same as the original.


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 Post subject: Re: Fibreglass Wings
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If using Speedbolts/ self tappers or similar could these be used on the Apost flange with spacer plates to spread the load?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mudflap-Fitt ... 1MaBADitMw

don't need to do the job just thinking out loud.

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 Post subject: Re: Fibreglass Wings
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I use a combination of self drilling tapping bolts and Tiger seal to install the GRP panels.

I just use the tapping bolts to do all the try fitting and fettling, then when i'm satisfied with the fit, I remove the panel entirely, add a generous dollop of Tiger seal to all the mating flanges and rebolt them on so the sealer dries in place. Once dry, the screws CAN be removed and the holes filled, but being a "belt and braces" engineer, I just leave the screws in as well! I've found you don't need screws in the door shut area, the shape of the club panel is close enough to original that screws at top and a couple at the bottom will hold it correctly whilst the sealant sets. The same goes for the almost impossible to access seam between the wing and the upper outer front panel.

Panels attached in this fashion CAN be removed, undo the screws and cut the sealant away carefully with a breadknife! But so long as you've fitted them right, the only reason you'd ever NEED to remove one is for accident damage - and then you don't CARE if the old one comes off in bits!

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 Post subject: Re: Fibreglass Wings
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:43 pm 
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When Derek did my O/S wing 4 years ago he used a mixture of MGB wing fixings along the top and bottom edges and Tiga-Seal(?) on the rest. The special washers are AFH2546. Can't see the bolts right now.
If you'd like a look-see at mine, please do let me know.
Tony.


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 Post subject: Re: Fibreglass Wings
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I just drilled holes and bolted them on. This will leave gaps, which sealant would fill, but easy removalability is what I wanted most. Which has paid off, I had to weld one corner of the windscreen. Taking the wing off involved removing a dozen bolts, compared to cutting through endless spot welds on a normal car.


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 Post subject: Re: Fibreglass Wings
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I just drilled holes and bolted them on. This will leave gaps, which sealant would fill, but easy removalability is what I wanted most. Which has paid off, I had to weld one corner of the windscreen. Taking the wing off involved removing a dozen bolts, compared to cutting through endless spot welds on a normal car.
This is what I meant. Thank you

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 Post subject: Re: Fibreglass Wings
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I'll check how my Land Rover wings are fitted. I think they had a small bracket at the back to bolt to.
Not much joy - they have a bolt on top of the mudguard just below the windscreen - very unsightly for a less 'tractor like' car!

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 Post subject: Re: Fibreglass Wings
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:13 pm 
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As promised to Bill, here is how mine are fitted.
Prep; and paint wise I'd have a word with Derek on here. I know he is quite busy at present so a quick answer might be forthcoming from your local Lotus spray-shop. Derek certainly got a nice finish on mine with no trouble.
As I think I mentioned the fixings are MGB front wing fixings. The rear edge is Tigasealed.
Tony.


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 Post subject: Re: Fibreglass Wings
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:16 pm 
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On the flange by the door you can just use self taping bolt, they are more than man enough to get through the flange and it saves complicated lining up to drill holes with the wings off.


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 Post subject: Re: Fibreglass Wings
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On the flange by the door you can just use self taping bolt, they are more than man enough to get through the flange and it saves complicated lining up to drill holes with the wings off.
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 Post subject: Re: Fibreglass Wings
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Can we use the expression 'man enough' these days? Might it not offend those mentally ill who consider themselves to be perhaps too manly...?


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