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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:43 pm 
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I'm more worried about loom chaffing where it exits the metal tubings, and starts to short or ground.

Personally I would have wrapped those areas of the loom, or installed rubber sleeves or tubing to avoid this,
maybe they will in the next episode.

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I'm more worried about loom chaffing where it exits the metal tubings, and starts to short or ground.

Personally I would have wrapped those areas of the loom, or installed rubber sleeves or tubing to avoid this,
maybe they will in the next episode.
They're only roughing it in, it's all coming out for paint. Described in comment on previous video, hence the grommet gag at the start...

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I'm more concerned about the fact that they ditched the harmonic balancer in the crank pulley when they made up the new drive for the alternator and aircon. This engine traditionally reacts badly to this tactic, as in crank snappingly badly!

My other worry is the one i've had since I started watching this. This is clearly NOT an 8 point car, so it's definitely going to need a BIVA, yet, as far as I can tell, they've not even LOOKED at the regs!

I just wish I had HALf their fabricating skills .............. and the lathe etc! I really am gonna have to start doing the Lotto again!

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I'm more worried about loom chaffing where it exits the metal tubings, and starts to short or ground.

Personally I would have wrapped those areas of the loom, or installed rubber sleeves or tubing to avoid this,
maybe they will in the next episode.
They're only roughing it in, it's all coming out for paint. Described in comment on previous video, hence the grommet gag at the start...

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That's all very well, but they've run the looms through relatively small bore tube, then stuck chuffing great plugs on the ends! Which will ALL have to come off again to get it out! Personally i'd have avoided the tubing, it may look neater, but it's a recipe for disaster. I've had much the same dilemma with the much bigger engine and trans loom for the Dolomega and have installed it temporarily, just cable tied in a bundle till i'm sure it all works. But it's been designed and built up so that it can be removed and refitted as a complete assembly, plugs and all!

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I'm more worried about loom chaffing where it exits the metal tubings, and starts to short or ground.

Personally I would have wrapped those areas of the loom, or installed rubber sleeves or tubing to avoid this,
maybe they will in the next episode.
They're only roughing it in, it's all coming out for paint. Described in comment on previous video, hence the grommet gag at the start...

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That's all very well, but they've run the looms through relatively small bore tube, then stuck chuffing great plugs on the ends! Which will ALL have to come off again to get it out! Personally i'd have avoided the tubing, it may look neater, but it's a recipe for disaster. I've had much the same dilemma with the much bigger engine and trans loom for the Dolomega and have installed it temporarily, just cable tied in a bundle till i'm sure it all works. But it's been designed and built up so that it can be removed and refitted as a complete assembly, plugs and all!

Steve
On a new plug like that you can easily de-pin. They've yet to 'half-arse' anything yet, I doubt they'll start now.

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My other worry is the one i've had since I started watching this. This is clearly NOT an 8 point car, so it's definitely going to need a BIVA, yet, as far as I can tell, they've not even LOOKED at the regs!
See their FaQ

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Another video going more in-depth on the making of the flexi-shaft auxiliary drive system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tzWC2G3mr0

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My other worry is the one i've had since I started watching this. This is clearly NOT an 8 point car, so it's definitely going to need a BIVA, yet, as far as I can tell, they've not even LOOKED at the regs!
See their FaQ
Could you give me a clue as to WHERE this is? i've gone through half a dozen episodes of comments/questions and no sign so far, it takes as long to read all the comments as the episode does to play! A link would be great!

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There is this FAQ on their website that takes you to answers on Youtube. No one could argue that it isn't a 'radically altered vehicle' so 100% will need a Basic IVA and I can't see how they could avoid not getting a Q plate, if that bothered them.

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There is this FAQ on their website that takes you to answers on Youtube. No one could argue that it isn't a 'radically altered vehicle' so 100% will need a Basic IVA and I can't see how they could avoid not getting a Q plate, if that bothered them.
Sorry mate, but THAT FAQ didn't give me anything I hadn't already found either!

I agree completely that this is a "radically altered vehicle" and i'm sure Nic and Richard will be equally convinced. And SHOULD know all about the technicalites of IVA. I'm sure that this is a long way from their first rodeo! I'm equally sure that they couldn't care a fig about having a Q plate on the car, or having to pay VED for evermore!

But having built a number of modified cars, I have a "special interest" in the rules and regs governing what you can and cannot do, including a more than passing familiarity with the IVA rules. Which is the main reason WHY I build all my cars to conform with the 8 point rule! IVA is largely a vast number of incomprehensible and un-necessary rules for pedestrian and passenger safety that were designed for use in kit car, special and low volume new car manufacture, where anything can be incorporated at the design stage, NOT the modification of an existing 40+ year old design which doesn't and couldn't meet modern safety standards. Look up "blackpopracing" on the retro rides forum for a exhaustive (and exhausting) saga on how to build a V8 Ford Pop within IVA rules, then look at Binky and try and work out how many bits might fail IVA, just on radius of curvature, sharp edges and bodyline protrusion alone, even before you get into the interior (the details of which are yet to be explained/determined) Things as simple as door handles, headlight bezels and the bonnet "mini" badge and bonnet chrome front edge moulding are all probably outside IVA parameters. And whilst these things can all be changed for something that DOES conform, it will take away the car's inherent "mini-ness" and character.

Maybe I should just go on and post a comment/question myself about it!

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Agreed, I meant to add that the FAQ makes no mention on the IVA side of things and thought I had, I must be getting old as in my head I've said one thing but the words on the page don't lie! :D

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Spoke to Richard...



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Regs looked at? Looked at, digested, checked, and read again. Car built to pass IVA. Worth noting that a standard Mini wouldn't pass...

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