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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:22 pm 
Hi All,

I want to buy a copy - I know it's 'old' but I'm still running XP at home, since that's what my last work ran.
Now my new work runs Win 7 Pro 32 bit, that's what I want to run (I get very easily confused swapping between systems all the time).
I've done a fair bit of searching, but every seller seems to be, well, not exactly above board. Have I missed the boat?


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:47 pm 
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No, Scan for example still list it. As an OEM license it should only be sold with new hardware, for example a new hard drive ticks the box. If you don't really need a new HD for the space and can run to it get a 128 or 256Gb SSD, put the OS on that and data on your existing disk, it'll fly even on old hardware.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:19 pm 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:38 pm 
Be aware of people selling windows 7 with the product key from an old machine. I looked at getting a cheap used version but after googling found that they are specific to the machine used I.e non transferable. Windows 8 hasn't got this feature but is pretty awful to use if your updating.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:02 pm 
Thanks everyone for the help, I especially like this idea:
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......... If you don't really need a new HD for the space and can run to it get a 128 or 256Gb SSD, put the OS on that and data on your existing disk, it'll fly even on old hardware.
My PC isn't the fastest, pentium E2200 2.2Ghz 2Mb ram, separate graphics card GeForce GT 630 - still be OK? It's certainly fast enough at the moment for everything I do.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:53 am 
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As an OEM license it should only be sold with new hardware, for example a new hard drive ticks the box.
Nope, OEM licensing changed after XP, you need to be buying a lot more of a machine now sadly :(

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:41 am 
ebuyer and Scan only sell OEM versions - will a new ssd be enough?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:03 am 
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From previous purchases, OEM only applies at time of purchase, not for registration.

Also I use SSDs in all my machines, Samsung mainly as transferring over is too easy with their software.

But backup regular, the old hard drives are easy to recover if faulty or corrupted, SSDs not so.

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I bought Windows 10 Pro and an SSD from Ebuyer a few weeks ago. Mahesh is right, my old SSD decided not to be recognised anymore, hence the purchase, then I found out that it is pretty impossible to recover data from the SSD. :fuming:

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Thanks everyone for the help, I especially like this idea:
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......... If you don't really need a new HD for the space and can run to it get a 128 or 256Gb SSD, put the OS on that and data on your existing disk, it'll fly even on old hardware.
My PC isn't the fastest, pentium E2200 2.2Ghz 2Mb ram, separate graphics card GeForce GT 630 - still be OK? It's certainly fast enough at the moment for everything I do.
Weak link there is the RAM (and I assume you mean Gb not Mb). Find the motherboard/machine on Crucial or get the system scanner and see if it can be upgraded. It likely can go to 8Gb for not a lot of money though you may need to click a 'show all options' button or it'll only show the fastest & most expensive type. Don't worry about keeping your existing 2Gb, it'll likely be quite slow but post what the scanner tells you.

Everything else would suffice.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:18 pm 
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Don't forget if you stick with x86 (32 bit OS) Windows will only use about 3GB max. once all devices have been catered for. So 4GB would be the max. you would need.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:39 am 
Hmm, looking around at new desktops gets me Win7 pro 64 bit for £270 or with Office 365 for £324 on an i3 4160/4170 and 4Gb ram.
What's the user differences between 32 bit and 64 bit Win7?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:54 am 
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Mart makes an exceedingly important point that I'd forgotten :oops: Sorry about that.

As far as what a user sees there is sod all difference between 32 bit and 64 bit. The difference is 64 bit can use more than 4Gb Ram, 32bit won't even use all of 4Gb. There is no reason I know of not to use 64bit windows.

I nearly added to my last post that SSD+RAM+Win7 would be well on the way to a whole new machine, glad you're considering it. At some things your old machine upgraded would be faster than your i3 example, an SSD makes that much difference, 8Gb rather than 4 helps too. But a new processor will be a lot faster once whatever you are doing has been loaded into RAM. The biggie of course is you'd be at the start of the upgrade curve rather than the end.

I'd go with the new box, spend as much as possible on the CPU by getting the smallest RAM and HD I can then upgrade the RAM as soon as possible, plan for weeks later not months (it's always cheaper from Crucial or Scan than factory fitted). Then fit an SSD when the wallet has recovered properly.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:21 pm 
Thanks Tin, that sounds like excellent advice, many thanks to everyone for their input, appreciated.


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Julian, the CPU isn't everything. More RAM is better than the fastest CPU. When I built my desktop PC (there's a thread about it on this forum), I ended up getting the fastest AMD quad-core CPU that was available but I put 8 GB of RAM in and it is enough for what I want it to do. I run a few of the latest games and I'm also doing video editing so it was a good thing I bought a half decent graphics card. The heart of my PC was bought brand new from CCL which cost me about £200-300. The graphics card, hard drives (500GB for the primary and 1TB for the secondary) & monitor were secondhand and my wireless keyboard & mouse were the only parts I carried over from my previous PC. The only thing I've done since buliding it is to change the laser printer for a colour one and change from wireless to powerline network adapters (works with the printer too).

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