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 Post subject: Re: Vice or Vise
PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:56 pm 
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I have a close friend who was born in America. Despite coming to this country at the age of 10, (50 years ago) his speech still carries many traces of his origins, for which I occaisionally mock him gently. His reply is always "bud ah don have an axe sent" :lol:

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 Post subject: Yes.....
PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:20 pm 
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"I sang poorly last night."
Sang is the past tense of sing.
Happened in the past.

"He's sung that a lot."
Sung is the past participle of sing.
Happened in the past but is continuing.

Any good?

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That helps thanks.



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 Post subject: Re: Vice or Vise
PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:30 pm 
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Quote:
"I sang poorly last night."
Sang is the past tense of sing.
Happened in the past.

"He's sung that a lot."
Sung is the past participle of sing.
Happened in the past but is continuing.

Any good?

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That's probably the easiest to understand explanation I've seen or heard and I'm not likely to hear or see a better explanation. :lol:
Being bored I checked the web for a few minutes, boy are there some convoluted explanations.
Many of them give examples:
Present, past, past participle - read, read, read :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Vice or Vise
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:02 am 
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Ah we have written a lot about foreign language abuse, but what about the language being murdered/homicided :D by the locals.
Oooop north int Yarkshire they punctuate with like ya know like, when AH was going downt rood like, yar noo like, I like saw this cat like, in a field like, and like ah said like I thought like yah know like.
These people have infected the south (where they speak properly :wink: ) so that when they speak of France they actually say FrAntz in the same way they say grAss. I am puzzled as to why they don't travel in a cAr :lol:
Midlanders use a buzz when their car breaks down and say "give it me" instead of "give it to me" :D and when they sing they say they sinG.
The wefrandul tnihg auobt wrods is we all understand them.

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 Post subject: Re: Vice or Vise
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:09 am 
Well it's carZ, trainZ, planeZ so surely it should be buZ as well? :D


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 Post subject: Re: Vice or Vise
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:04 pm 
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Jon, let's not get into the regional accents thing and embrace the differences (Not everybody in Yorkshire talks the same). As somebody has mentioned before, the English language is constantly evolving (that's why the OED has to be constantly revised). American English is derived from Elizabethan English which dates back to the time of first American colonies which is a perfect example. Don't forget that the USA exists only because the 13 American colonies rebelled against the British over what was seen as unfair taxation.

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 Post subject: Re: Vice or Vise
PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:29 pm 
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Yes of course we must keep regional accents like :D
I was quite disappointed when I moved down to Devon in the mid 90's only to find that Paignton was almost totally full of midlanders :wink:
There were buzzes everywhere.

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 Post subject: Re: Vice or Vise
PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:48 pm 
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Yes of course we must keep regional accents like :D
I was quite disappointed when I moved down to Devon in the mid 90's only to find that Paignton was almost totally full of midlanders :wink:
There were buzzes everywhere.
Well, at least you weren't being addressed by all and sundry as "moy luvverrr"

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 Post subject: Re: Vice or Vise
PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:22 am 
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You remind me of a holiday we enjoyed when we had a caravan on a farm in the middle of Bodmin moor near Dozy Mary Pool back in the mid sixties.
There was an old one legged man that would stand by the crossroads passing comments with the drivers of cars that rarely passed. I was about 14 years old and usually off fishing in the streams so not often in the car. But this particular day I was and Gurney (his name) looked into the car and remarked "go boyee"! Finally we translated this as "You got the boy with you" :D
Those days have gone and would you let your son wander on the moors now?

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 Post subject: Re: Vice or Vise
PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:22 pm 
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Those days have gone and would you let your son wander on the moors now?
He can do what he likes, he's 31 this year!

Seriously though, I grew up in a west London suburb (tropic of Ruislip) and from the age of about 6, was out on my bike from dawn to dusk in the summer holidays, down at the park with its 40mph roundabout and 30ft high slide or messing about down by the brook with my mates and nothing unpleasant ever happened to me or anyone I knew.
It's a sad reflection on the world we live in that such antics would now be unthinkable, along with putting your baby in an unrestrained carrycot in the back seat of your car alongside the other 3 kids who would be kneeling on the seat, looking out the back window and waving to other motorists.

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 Post subject: Re: Vice or Vise
PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 8:10 pm 
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It's a sad reflection on the world we live in that such antics would now be unthinkable, along with putting your baby in an unrestrained carrycot in the back seat of your car alongside the other 3 kids who would be kneeling on the seat, looking out the back window and waving to other motorists.

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Kneeling on the seat? Luxury! My parents had a Hillman Minx estate and when we were adult passengers, me and my two brothers were often relegated to the load carrying area.


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 Post subject: Re: Vice or Vise
PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:40 pm 
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Apparently, American English originated from Elizabethan English which was from the time of William Shakspeare when the US was first colonized
I can't believe that nobody has commmented on this already!!!

Spell words correctly by using 'S' in future. :x


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 Post subject: Re: Vice or Vise
PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 11:12 pm 
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Apparently, American English originated from Elizabethan English which was from the time of William Shakspeare when the US was first colonized
I can't believe that nobody has commmented on this already!!!

Spell words correctly by using 'S' in future. :x
So should it be Elisabethan English? :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Vice or Vise
PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:36 pm 
If she was named Elisabeth yes :)


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