85mph and no oil - part 2 !!!
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:12 pm
Posted on behalf of Mike Taylor:-<br>
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“ I have discovered where all my oil was going!! Whilst on my way to watch Santana in the Wembley Arena in mid May in the Sprint I pulled into Reading East services on the way up for a break. The engine stalled just as I was turning into one of the parking bays (it needed quite nifty footwork on the throttle to keep the revs up and the engine running whilst moving at car park speeds) and it would not run at all after that although it was trying to fire up when turning the ignition. Oh well, call the breakdown company! 3 hours later I was comfortably in my hotel in Wembley getting ready to watch this great band – sod the car !!!. The next morning (Sunday) after egg and bacon, I tried to sort the problem out – still no joy so a second call to the breakdown company had the car once again on the back of a low loader and we were taken all the way back to Plymouth. <br>
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After the exams period had finished end of May and I had a weekend clear I spoke to a learned colleague of mine who, while trying to fire the car up discovered during our checks an alarming amount of smoke coming from under the dizzy cap (up through the dizzy shaft and out under the loose fitting cap). I removed one of the spark plugs and there was enough smoke to create a smoke screen for the next WW2 movie at sea!!! He was of the opinion that I had suffered some sort of piston ring problem and further investigation was required. After removing the head of my Sprint as you can see from the pics of # 3 piston, the piston wall has disintegrated in a pretty big way, breaking up both the scraper and the oil rings in the process. As the piston metal is softer than the rings, the piston wall has been chewed up and as a result the oil has been burnt off and has been allowed to burn and blow out of any point it can find! # 4 piston was showing signs of beginning to follow the same route – the piston was complete in itself although one of the oil scraper rings had broken up and was just laying loose in its groove!!. #’s 1 and 2 pistons were fine. Surprisingly and I don’t know how, neither of the cylinder walls of #3 & 4 were damaged or scored in any way!! The main bearings and the bottom end con rod bearings are all fine as well. The general view was that either the rear carburettor is running too lean allowing #3 & 4 pistons to run too hot or there was a compression problem (unless the compression problem came about as a result of the rings beginning to fail as reported in my first thread on “no oil!”<br>
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Although I have a set of very good Koehler & Schmidt pistons in my spares box, and these will be fitted with new rings and small end bearings as well as replacement bottom end and main bearings all round, I still have to decide what caused the problem before I start rebuilding the engine. <br>
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What is the general view out there? What do you think may have started this process? My engine does tend to run on the hot side – particularly as I have mentioned before when travelling up Holden Hill which causes the engine to create the “spit, spit “ sound and does pink quite a bit. Should I change the plugs I use which are the Champion BN9Y to a cooler plug? If so to what plug? When taking the plugs out, they were not indicative of too lean a mixture. Should I fit an oil cooler kit? (Does anyone have one they want to sell?) <br>
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Any thoughts on this would be keenly received !!<br>
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Mike Taylor “<br>
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“ I have discovered where all my oil was going!! Whilst on my way to watch Santana in the Wembley Arena in mid May in the Sprint I pulled into Reading East services on the way up for a break. The engine stalled just as I was turning into one of the parking bays (it needed quite nifty footwork on the throttle to keep the revs up and the engine running whilst moving at car park speeds) and it would not run at all after that although it was trying to fire up when turning the ignition. Oh well, call the breakdown company! 3 hours later I was comfortably in my hotel in Wembley getting ready to watch this great band – sod the car !!!. The next morning (Sunday) after egg and bacon, I tried to sort the problem out – still no joy so a second call to the breakdown company had the car once again on the back of a low loader and we were taken all the way back to Plymouth. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
After the exams period had finished end of May and I had a weekend clear I spoke to a learned colleague of mine who, while trying to fire the car up discovered during our checks an alarming amount of smoke coming from under the dizzy cap (up through the dizzy shaft and out under the loose fitting cap). I removed one of the spark plugs and there was enough smoke to create a smoke screen for the next WW2 movie at sea!!! He was of the opinion that I had suffered some sort of piston ring problem and further investigation was required. After removing the head of my Sprint as you can see from the pics of # 3 piston, the piston wall has disintegrated in a pretty big way, breaking up both the scraper and the oil rings in the process. As the piston metal is softer than the rings, the piston wall has been chewed up and as a result the oil has been burnt off and has been allowed to burn and blow out of any point it can find! # 4 piston was showing signs of beginning to follow the same route – the piston was complete in itself although one of the oil scraper rings had broken up and was just laying loose in its groove!!. #’s 1 and 2 pistons were fine. Surprisingly and I don’t know how, neither of the cylinder walls of #3 & 4 were damaged or scored in any way!! The main bearings and the bottom end con rod bearings are all fine as well. The general view was that either the rear carburettor is running too lean allowing #3 & 4 pistons to run too hot or there was a compression problem (unless the compression problem came about as a result of the rings beginning to fail as reported in my first thread on “no oil!”<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Although I have a set of very good Koehler & Schmidt pistons in my spares box, and these will be fitted with new rings and small end bearings as well as replacement bottom end and main bearings all round, I still have to decide what caused the problem before I start rebuilding the engine. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
What is the general view out there? What do you think may have started this process? My engine does tend to run on the hot side – particularly as I have mentioned before when travelling up Holden Hill which causes the engine to create the “spit, spit “ sound and does pink quite a bit. Should I change the plugs I use which are the Champion BN9Y to a cooler plug? If so to what plug? When taking the plugs out, they were not indicative of too lean a mixture. Should I fit an oil cooler kit? (Does anyone have one they want to sell?) <br>
<br>
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Any thoughts on this would be keenly received !!<br>
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Mike Taylor “<br>
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<p>Martin<br>
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