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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:02 pm 
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I could send you one cheaper..

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:25 pm 
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If anyone else fancies the holes in their valance, I was forced to buy a horribly expensive 64mm dia Q/max cutter to make them.

The tool cost me £70 and has made precisely 6 holes so far!

I'm willing to rent it out or sell it on for reasonable money!

Steve
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Toolstation sell metal hole cutters like that but a lot cheaper

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:56 pm 
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If anyone else fancies the holes in their valance, I was forced to buy a horribly expensive 64mm dia Q/max cutter to make them.

The tool cost me £70 and has made precisely 6 holes so far!

I'm willing to rent it out or sell it on for reasonable money!

Steve
Steve

Toolstation sell metal hole cutters like that but a lot cheaper

Dave
Not like Q max they don't! I have one of the cheap sort (a saw toothed ring on a mandrel) with a large range of cutters, thats how I did the grp valance on the Carledo. The steel panel is too thin and flimsy for it to cut, it just polished it!

I was just looking through my watch list and noticed the seller of mine has now upped the price to £85 plus postage as he only has one left!

Steve

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:58 pm 
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I could send you one cheaper..

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That's not a Q max cutter, I have those and they wouldn't do it!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:14 am 
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This, for those who've obviously never heard of it, is the Q/Max cutter!

It bears the same relationship to one of those cheap hole cutters as an AK47 does to a stone axe! They both do the same job, but one does it quickly, efficiently and with style and the other is hard to control and makes a bloody mess!

I've had a 19mm one since my apprentice days, bought for cutting radio ariel holes in wings, it has been endlessly useful over the years and is still working as well as the day it was new, the smaller ones only cost a fiver or so. But as they get bigger the price escalates dramatically.


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I would have liked the tool that turns a lip into the panel, like the holes in a sill diaphragm panel, but those run into hundreds of £s

Steve

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Not like Q max they don't! I have one of the cheap sort (a saw toothed ring on a mandrel) with a large range of cutters, thats how I did the grp valance on the Carledo. The steel panel is too thin and flimsy for it to cut, it just polished it!
As an experiment (to see how a fog light looked) I tried cutting a 90mm diameter hole in a (scrap) front valance using a standard metal hole cutter,
whilst I was successful with some difficulty in cutting said hole, I very definitely would not want to use this on a new panel!


Ian.

PS I thought the fog light looked too big, almost like they ones on old Subaru Imprezzas!

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Not like Q max they don't! I have one of the cheap sort (a saw toothed ring on a mandrel) with a large range of cutters, thats how I did the grp valance on the Carledo. The steel panel is too thin and flimsy for it to cut, it just polished it!
As an experiment (to see how a fog light looked) I tried cutting a 90mm diameter hole in a (scrap) front valance using a standard metal hole cutter,
whilst I was successful with some difficulty in cutting said hole, I very definitely would not want to use this on a new panel!


Ian.

PS I thought the fog light looked too big, almost like they ones on old Subaru Imprezzas!
I toyed with the idea of actually using Impreza spots at one point, but as you say, they are a bit "out of scale" on the smaller Dolomite, so I settled for the "square 8"s which are period correct and look "right" on the car. I was lucky enough to get my NOS pair off my landlord (may he RIP), he was going to bin them and offered them to me free but I felt guilty about that and gave him a tenner! Though I will have to spend another tenner on some 12v bulbs, he'd put 24v ones in to go on his truck, but never fitted them.

Steve

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What mirrors are those off Steve and could you tell me the length of the plinth? I think they would be a vast improvement to a Stag :D

Tony.
I fitted a similar set to my wifes 2500. These are american muscle car style mirrors.

https://www.amazon.com/Fit-System-1600B ... 68DJ7VM4B2

Jeroen

They are exactly like the CIPA 19100 mirrors shown on Jeroens ad, first row down, second from left.

Steve
Thanks Steve and Jeroen :thumbsup: I saw them on another Stag at weekend and you can see out of them. The chap thinks he has another pair at home somewhere he will sell?
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This, for those who've obviously never heard of it, is the Q/Max cutter!

It bears the same relationship to one of those cheap hole cutters as an AK47 does to a stone axe! They both do the same job, but one does it quickly, efficiently and with style and the other is hard to control and makes a bloody mess!

I've had a 19mm one since my apprentice days, bought for cutting radio ariel holes in wings, it has been endlessly useful over the years and is still working as well as the day it was new, the smaller ones only cost a fiver or so. But as they get bigger the price escalates dramatically.


Image


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I would have liked the tool that turns a lip into the panel, like the holes in a sill diaphragm panel, but those run into hundreds of £s

Steve
Steve

i have a couple of those cutter but only small ones ,really like to have the Dimpole dyes but as you say there dearer

Dave


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:19 pm 
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A few more little diversions from the endless flatting!

I opted for the correct busbars for the boot wiring and add ons like towbar, high level brake light, reversing camera etc and regretted it when I saw them. Like the fusebox the terminals are too close together to fit insulated spade terminals to them. Unlike the fusebox there is no cover to protect them. Fortunately all this is quite high up and will be behind the millboard out of sight. Hopefully will avoid corrosion!

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More progress with the console, i've adapted the fake wood gearshift surround to fit and made a blank face panel to accept the massive double DIN stereo/satnav/video/etc. next step, make the hole for it!

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Finally i'm adding underbonnet and underboot lid LED strips, so that, in the unlikely event of a breakdown, or even a puncture, on a dark Scottish stage, I can see what i'm doing! No pic of the boot lights yet, I have to paint inside the boot before itting them!

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More to come, Steve

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:37 pm 
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the reversing camera i bought one that is built in to the rear number plate surround, good idea about the light under bonnet

Dave


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Those LED lights work great Steve, a pal has fitted them to his Stag and GT6 under bonnet and in the boot.

Tony.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:07 pm 
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Those LED lights work great Steve, a pal has fitted them to his Stag and GT6 under bonnet and in the boot.

Tony.
And only £8 for 6 of them! I think the roll of speaker lead I used to wire them up cost more!

I've wired them to a permanent live (via the boot light wiring in the back) and an earth switch robbed from an old glovebox in the front.

Steve

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:27 pm 
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Got the hole cut and the cage and stereo located in the console. It's that close a fit on just about everything (tunnel, vent panel and footwell distribution thingy) that the thickness of the tunnel carpet had to be relieved to get it in place!

The beast!


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Fitted to the console, a cabinet maker friend is making me a wood face panel to go round it and Cliff will re-cover the Vinyl bits.


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But it takes up SO much space, there's not even room for the electric window switches and boot release! Or coins, baccy tin and other essentials! I may have to find or make a console extension cum cubby box/armrest to go behind this one and over the handbrake to fit it all in! At least i've determined that the sequence I used to match the speaker cables I plumbed into the main loom was correct!

Steve

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:01 pm 
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the reversing camera i bought one that is built in to the rear number plate surround, good idea about the light under bonnet

Dave
I have the later style number plate lights, so no housing to put it in!

The one that came with the stereo is very small and black in colour, it fits nicely under the lip of the bootlid and should be almost un-noticeable once the car is fitted up completely.

Steve

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