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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:39 am 
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Started last Sunday getting the back of the front wheel arch finished.

This is pretty much how I left it last year bar cleaning up again ready for this welding.
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That was an awkward shape to get in, so I cut a bit more off to get more room the other side.
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Made a patch that fitted. Easier when you have access the other side as I could roughly get to shape and put the otherside and mark off a more exact measurement.
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A lot of fiddling to get into place and held.
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The light area made a handy earthing point.
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Then a couple of tacks to hold in place as it was getting late and I wouldn't finish it that day. Leaving a few days would likely leave it ending up on the floor.
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Fast forward to yesterday evening when I had some more time to get on with this. Hellish first week back affected my mojo for getting on with welding in the evenings and I suspect it's not going to get any better, so progress from now is likely to be slow again.

Anyhow finished welding it up and took off the top of the welds. I'm not going to grind all the way back as it's an awkward place to work and its not really visible normally either.
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Then painted. Which has just reminded me, I need to put paint on the inside...!
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Not sure if I want to tackle the front of the car just yet. I might put some paint over to protect it and then come back later for it. Feel that it's probably one of those faffy jobs that will take forever to get right. Also need to get some thinner steel and try out seeing if that's easier to shape than the stuff I have at the moment. I can shape the 0.9mm/20 gauge stuff I have, but it's not the most pliable. For the front end wing, it's not structural but it is quite shaped. So thinner stuff should be ok here.

Also need to either repair or replace the light holders. I really don't want to cut the wing or front valance off as I think it's a bit unnecessary for the work that needs doing there. Cutting them off will be a right faff in getting them back on and they risk never be right. Not that they probably were out of the factory anyway!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:41 am 
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Hi SiC

https://forum.triumphdolomite.co.uk/vie ... 5&start=75

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The eyebrow section runs underneath the leading edge of the front wing and a bit of the front nose section - see attached pictures where I replaced mine. It is fixed in position to the inner valence - the ends of which (where the headlight goes through) are often rotten and again required replacement on my car - all available from the club and a superb fit and quality.
You won't need to remove the wing to fit them, infact if you do cut out the remains of the old eyebrow, it will give you some access from underneath to repair your wing section.

James has also detailed this process in his write ups - RUK and DTR are well worth having a trawl through.

HTH. MC
That's very useful information. My eyebrows aren't too bad from what I can see thankfully.

What purpose do they serve? I don't really see their use at the moment, apart from another grot trap! Not structural either as I think the club replacements are GRP? Presumably they have a purpose otherwise BL wouldn't have bothered!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:55 am 
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Being looking through what youve done,your chipping way at the rust nicely, nice work

Dave

Are you going to replace the front wings or repair them ?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:18 am 
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Being looking through what youve done,your chipping way at the rust nicely, nice work

Dave

Are you going to replace the front wings or repair them ?
Thanks! It's a slow old slog but all I have to do is plod on and it'll get done eventually.

Given the replacement wings are GRP now, I prefer to repair them as best as I can. Absolute worse case I could go to the GRP wings, but given mine are still mostly useable (with a bit of work) and original to the car, I think I rather keep it original. For now at least!

These cars are treasured vehicles now and aren't (at least shouldn't!) be outside in all weathers. So if I can sufficiently protect these, I should be able to prolong the life of them.

I hate filler, but I do concede that this is a suitable place for it. Just at least I wished whoever last worked on this area had fixed the holes rather than slopping filler all over them instead!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:22 am 
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A tip I was given by a professional panel beater on another forum I post on, was to clamp the replacement new steel over the old panel and bash the hell into it to match the contours of the old. Something I might give a go as will massively speed up the job. Possibly will try some thinner steel though as should be easier to shape - like 0.8mm or even down to 0.6mm.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:53 pm 
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These cars are treasured vehicles now and aren't (at least shouldn't!) be outside in all weathers. So if I can sufficiently protect these, I should be able to prolong the life of them.
Ah, so I shouldn't use my Sprint as a daily driver* doing 6k miles a year kept outside in all weathers? I knew I was going wrong somewhere with this classic car ownership thing! :lol:

*Except when icy and there's salt about.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:31 pm 
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These cars are treasured vehicles now and aren't (at least shouldn't!) be outside in all weathers. So if I can sufficiently protect these, I should be able to prolong the life of them.
Ah, so I shouldn't use my Sprint as a daily driver* doing 6k miles a year kept outside in all weathers? I knew I was going wrong somewhere with this classic car ownership thing! :lol:

*Except when icy and there's salt about.
I didn't phrase that very well did I! What I meant is that they've long past old banger stage. So they're generally more looked after with owners aware of salt on the roads and it's affects on the life of a car. Especially one like this where there is rust traps galore.

The front wing on mine are pretty thin on the inside, but still enough material there to work with. Given the other option is aftermarket GRP, despite how good they may be, I'd rather try my best to save the original metal wings on the car. I'll clean up the inside of them and retreat them, which should massively extend their life. Of course if the car gets used in all weathers (i.e. when it's salty) then they will deteriorate as quickly as the cars did back in the 70/80s.

But yeah, I'm all for using classics as much as possible. This is effectively what this car aim is. There are plenty of concourse examples around and this isn't likely ever be one. At least I'm not interested in it being like that. Basically tidy enough so it's not embarrassingly scruffy old banger. Not a show winner but one that is a nice thing to both own and drive.

Hope this makes more sense!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:49 pm 
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Finished the inner wing area off. This was a right pia to do as the outer wing is in place and room is tight. As this will be hidden by a shield, I didn't grind it completely flat either. Need to bend that bit sticking back out to give somewhere for the shield to bolt onto.
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Started moving back towards the rear of the car again. The front will be easier to do once it's facing the other end of the garage. I'll turn the car around when I get onto the nearside as I won't have to move all my tools to the other side of the garage, plus there is a whole bunch of crap on the other wall too.

Finished a small bit by the checkstrap plate I forgot. Small and barely noticeable once the doors on but needed to be done.
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Next up is the b-pillar. Took the door off as it makes working on this area massively easier.
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Started removing gobs of filler again.
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Actually was fearing it would be much worse under here. Double skinned again but the inner, thicker metal skin is in good shape. Some pitting but plenty of metal left there.

Cut away some of the pitted outer section so I could repair that hole at the top of the sill.
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Welded a piece in place and then chased up the smaller holes.
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Then painted. Except I forgot to take a picture of that and I'm in bed writing this up on my phone ...

I'll try remember to take a picture before I get on with making replacement pieces for the outer section of that b-pillar! Not particularly exciting though, the same but grey. Painted surfaces do come up clearer on the camera though.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:39 pm 
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Some Friday night metal bashing
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Other bit left is going to be a bit more awkward. After this I might go back to the front wing and get the bottom piece done.

I've got a replacement piece but I hate welding preformed panels in. If you cock it up, it costs more money! I'm dreading getting the rear arches done. They're hideously expensive panels and hens teeth.

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