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 Post subject: Re: Dolomite values
PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:12 pm 
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Part of the problem is the what else there was going through workshops at the time. Now it is absolutely normal for a car to require studs that can only be used once and have a head torquing sequence that reads like War And Peace. Comparable cars at the time and especially other triumphs would run fine with a cornflake packet for a head gasket. The time required to do the job properly costs.

We (the club) know you need to use a new gasket every time on a Sprint. We know you need to torque it down in multiple steps and in the right order (didn't help that the Factory books had 2 different sequences in). We know you're wasting your money if you go cheap on the gasket. We know it needs a retorque after a couple of heat cycles. It doesn't matter a fig if some clamping force is 'lost' due to the angled studs if the direct clamping force is adequate and the right sequence is used to avoid the head shifting. Dowel it if you're going racing for extra security.

As for the pump, KISS may have been the goal. A snapped fan belt shouldn't stop a a slant like it does a Triumph straight pot. Most of the problems with pumps originate in quality (or lack thereof) in the seals & bearings or over worn parts. If your layshaft is rattling round in the block like a pea in a drum of course it is going to knock seven bells out of even the best pump seals. Same for the pump foot sleeve, if it is worn the pump seals don't stand a chance. Do the layshaft bearings and pump foot sleeve and your (good quality) pump will last just fine.

Suspension arms - replace the bushes with polyurethane as hard as concrete and hoon it round a track and yes you might just suffer metal fatigue. Not a hard one to avoid that.

Stags have issues too, probably more than a sprint, but they are all solved problems thanks to the work of the club. Look at the value of them these days. All the major issues with Dolomites including sprints are solved problems if you adhere to the wisdom of the club. This club.

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 Post subject: Re: Dolomite values
PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:15 pm 
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it is good seeing articles about the cars, IE Goodwood and it also gets the cars in the public eye again which is also good for the future of the car and club


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 Post subject: Re: Dolomite values
PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:22 pm 
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There are some good points here about cars getting too valuable.

You may envy Ford, original Mini and old Land Rover values. I am guessing you don't envy the fact owners of such cars are targets of criminal gangs because the cars and parts are worth nicking.


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 Post subject: Re: Dolomite values
PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:47 pm 
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If Dolomites were as valuable as Escorts, I for one, wouldn't be able to afford even a project to restore! My Toledo and Sprint, between them cost me £575. Both bought as projects. I've spent a fair bit on them since then with the Toledo owing me, to date, around £4k and the Sprint, not yet finished, a tad less, but with another couple of grand yet to spend. I don't resent any of this and current values seem to indicate that were I to sell them, (fat chance!) I wouldn't LOSE money and might even make a small profit. Plus I've had 8 years motoring, every mile of it great fun, from the Toledo. You can't put a price on that!

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 Post subject: Re: Dolomite values
PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:43 pm 
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If Dolomites were as valuable as Escorts, I for one, wouldn't be able to afford even a project to restore!
I was going to say the same thing, I wouldn't have three 1300's and two Dolomites (two of the 1300s are usable) if they were £20k each. I also wouldn't be restoring an 1850 and the owner would have his second 1850 if the were that expensive.
I like the fact that the last seven or 8 I've bought have been £FREE-250 and I have been able to save them when no one else wanted them, then some complain because I got them cheap and want money when I've rebuilt the !. ok so they aren't cheap to restore, take a lot of time and some parts especially good quality are difficult to get but they will live on.

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 Post subject: Re: Dolomite values
PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:29 am 
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Cars are to be driven and enjoyed. I don’t like to see them as static status symbols. Too high a value just discourages owners from driving them I reckon.
Good luck to anyone who likes, and can afford an RS Ford, but I take my hat off to the owner who actually uses their car as intended.

I think Dolomites are steadily increasing in value, but I’d rather they stayed in the unfancied bracket, so that I can afford to keep mine on the road. I’ve found in the past that when a certain marque of car becomes valuable, the parts suppliers like to increase their prices accordingly too!


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