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 Post subject: Re: Correct Rubber Mats
PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:17 am 
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if you own a Dolomite with a proper engine then they fit better as the tunnel isn't as wide ;)
And Murdo's auto has a tunnel that is wider even than a manual Sprint one! Which doesn't help him find some mats that fit!

Just as an aside, the 1500, 1850 and Sprint autos all share the same tunnel as they cover the same transmission!

Steve
Does the Sprint share the box with any other models Steve?

That explains why my mats are are even poorer fit to the manual in the photo, never realised the tunnel was wider.
All Dolomite autos have a variant of the BW65 box. Only the Sprint has an oil cooler on the trans as standard but it was offered as a cost upgrade on the other models. The BW65 was also fitted to various SD1 Rovers and later Marina/Ital. The auto tunnel is wider but somewhat lower than any of the manual versions - purely down to the shape of the transmission!

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 Post subject: Re: Correct Rubber Mats
PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:31 pm 
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There really is some rubbish being spouted on here about transmission tunnels :lol:
The mats fit the footwells, which are the same shape on all Dolomites. The edge of the tunnel is in the same place on all Dolomites, as the tunnels bolt in to the shell in the same row of holes.... You can take the "narrow" tunnel out of a manual shell and bolt a "wide" automatic tunnel in its place. Its not actually wider - its just shaped differently. None of which affects the required size or shape of the rubber mats Murdo is after - one size fits all!
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 Post subject: Re: Correct Rubber Mats
PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:42 pm 
Those rubber mats are Aftermarket, however they are genuine Unipart items that came in the accessory range along with mudflaps and a passenger door mirror, locking fuel cap.

The fitnin the footwell is not great and what you see is about as good as it gets. The mats are quite thick and the footwell is not entirely flat which is why the mats buckle up a bit.


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 Post subject: Re: Correct Rubber Mats
PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:10 pm 
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Those rubber mats are Aftermarket, however they are genuine Unipart items that came in the accessory range along with mudflaps and a passenger door mirror, locking fuel cap.

The fitnin the footwell is not great and what you see is about as good as it gets. The mats are quite thick and the footwell is not entirely flat which is why the mats buckle up a bit.
If that's what was supplied 'back in the day' then I'll stick with the set I have then, as far as I'm aware they're the original set of mats from new - like I say the back ones are a perfect fit.

The first owner had mats supplied I just assumed the 2nd owner changed them but there was no receipt in the 'library' of folders, so must be the first and only set.

When I spoke to the first owner he told me all the bits he got added before the car got supplied, which included a rear electric aerial even although it came with a front pull up one, as the electric ones wouldn't fit on the front wing back then, so had to have it fitted on the rear - it's been done away with now.

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 Post subject: Re: Correct Rubber Mats
PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:37 pm 
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There really is some rubbish being spouted on here about transmission tunnels :lol:
The mats fit the footwells, which are the same shape on all Dolomites. The edge of the tunnel is in the same place on all Dolomites, as the tunnels bolt in to the shell in the same row of holes.... You can take the "narrow" tunnel out of a manual shell and bolt a "wide" automatic tunnel in its place. Its not actually wider - its just shaped differently. None of which affects the required size or shape of the rubber mats Murdo is after - one size fits all!
Matt.
Try putting a 1300 or 1500 tunnel over a Sprint box and see how far you get! Or any tunnel over an auto box except an auto one! Or an auto over anything else!

It's true the hole in the car is the same size, but there are, as far as I know, 6 different tunnel housings, not counting FWD variants. and they come in a variety of widths, heights and shift hole positions to suit the gearbox fitted. Even the carpets that go over them are model specific!

1300, 3 rail gearbox.

1300 and 1500 single rail gearbox.

1850 3 rail gearbox.

1850 single rail gearbox.

Sprint manual gearbox.

All automatic transmission variants (1500/1850/Sprint)

If one size really DID fit all, there wouldn't be all these different ones, would there?

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 Post subject: Re: Correct Rubber Mats
PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:02 pm 
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The footwell width is the same. The bolt hole position in the floor is the same. The floor mats are the same..... re-read what ive said please. We are talking about floor mats. There is no "wide" or "narrow" version. All the tunnels start in the same place! The differences are in the shapes to suit individual gearboxes.


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 Post subject: Re: Correct Rubber Mats
PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:20 am 
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The footwell width is the same. The bolt hole position in the floor is the same. The floor mats are the same..... re-read what ive said please. We are talking about floor mats. There is no "wide" or "narrow" version. All the tunnels start in the same place! The differences are in the shapes to suit individual gearboxes.
I see what you're saying and if the rubber mats were the same shape as the footwell carpets (which ARE all the same) all would be well!

But it is apparent from the pics from both cars that they AREN'T! And the extra width of the rubber mats has to go somewhere! When fitted in a 1500 or 1300, there is a bit of extra flat room at the base of the tunnel but on the fat tunnel cars, the mat just climbs the side and curls over annoyingly. Been there, had that and, in the past, ended up with aftermarket universal mats, the shape of which could be cut to more nearly match the space. These, of course, do not have "Triumph" embossed into them, but you can't have everything!

Since I often get into my daily drive Dolomite in dirty oily work boots, I need rubber mats to preserve the carpet underneath, my temporary solution employed on the Carledo, running without carpet, is ok for the stripped out look of the car, but when the Dolomega hits the road, there will need to be something more permanent in the way of rubber covers or i'm gonna be buying new footwell carpets on an annual basis!

What we REALLY need are mats that actually match the footwell carpet in shape and size, but I don't know of any that were made in period and the chances of getting them made today, for any reasonable amont of money, are slim indeed!

Steve

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 Post subject: Re: Correct Rubber Mats
PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:22 pm 
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Is anyone aware of a company that will do bespoke mats?

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Built 26/6/1980 (one of the last built), Auto, Porcelain White - Genuine Mileage 52,820 (warranted).

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Supplied by Lavender Hill Garage Ltd, Enfield, London, by garage owner Jimmy Metcalfe on 30th September 1980 to Geoffery Robinson, Enfield.

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 Post subject: Re: Correct Rubber Mats
PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:39 pm 
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Ive just bought a set of these... they are listed on eBay by ANG classics to fit a Spitfire. Price £30 ish delivered. They are good quality, and although not a perfect fit for a Dolomite i think they look the part with the Triumph Logo.
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Obviously ive only tried them in an 1850 Auto, so i cant say if they will fit the other many and varied footwells in Dolomites...

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 Post subject: Re: Correct Rubber Mats
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:03 am 
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Ive just bought a set of these... they are listed on eBay by ANG classics to fit a Spitfire. Price £30 ish delivered. They are good quality, and although not a perfect fit for a Dolomite i think they look the part with the Triumph Logo.
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Obviously ive only tried them in an 1850 Auto, so i cant say if they will fit the other many and varied footwells in Dolomites...

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They look spot on, will try them for the Sprint I think.

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Built 26/6/1980 (one of the last built), Auto, Porcelain White - Genuine Mileage 52,820 (warranted).

Only 3 previous owners, (2 within the same family).

Supplied by Lavender Hill Garage Ltd, Enfield, London, by garage owner Jimmy Metcalfe on 30th September 1980 to Geoffery Robinson, Enfield.

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 Post subject: Re: Correct Rubber Mats
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:52 am 
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I went on ebay the other night with only the parameters of Triumph Dolomite car parts entered and 90% at least of all the ads were for tailored floor mats of one shape/size/colour/logo/material or another! Some looked like they might be a good fit, others, not so much! But you have to take the "generic photo" thing into consideration too!

Steve

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'72 Triumph 1500FWD in Slate Grey, Now with RWD and Carledo powertrain!

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