The Triumph Dolomite Club - Discussion Forum

The Number One Club for owners of Triumph's range of small saloons from the 1960s and 1970s.
It is currently Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:54 am

All times are UTC+01:00




Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 14 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:44 pm 
Offline
TDC Member
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:23 pm
Posts: 1173
Location: East Staffordshire
My new -1in 175lb springs don't fit in the cap. They are 60 thou bigger than the cap internal size. Waiting on a response from Rimmers but can someone measure a spring please ? Mine are 3.690 and the cap is 3.630 inside.


Thanks

_________________
Mike

1980 Vermillion Sprint - 174bhp


Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:32 am 
Offline
TDC Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:35 pm
Posts: 960
Location: Filey, North Yorkshire
The ones I got from Rimmers didn't fit either. (mine were supposed to be HD standard, the rears didn't fit and the fronts were too low)

_________________
Image


Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:53 am 
Offline
TDC West Mids Area Organiser
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:13 pm
Posts: 13341
Location: Over here...can't you see me?
I don't have a clean rear spring to hand, but I do have a NOS rear spring cap, for which the largest internal diameter measures 3.637"


Top
   
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:42 pm 
Offline
TDC Staffs Area Organiser
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:08 pm
Posts: 5429
Location: The Old Asylum
The Rimmers ones don't fit irrespective of whether they are STD, uprated, lowered etc. For the sake of 5 mins with a Dremel i'd just grind a bit off the top coil. It's such a tiny amount it's unlikely to cause a problem.

_________________
Mark

1961 Chevrolet Corvair Greenbrier Sportswagon
1980 Dolomite Sprint project using brand new shell
2009 Mazda MX5 2.0 Sport
2018 Infiniti Q30


Top
   
PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:54 am 
Offline
TDC West Mids Area Organiser
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:13 pm
Posts: 13341
Location: Over here...can't you see me?
Have Rimmers been told?

If so, why are they still sending them out to customers without advising them of the problem?


Top
   
PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:50 am 
Offline
Future Club member hopefully!
Future Club member hopefully!
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:10 pm
Posts: 1927
Location: Holland on sea
Send them back to Rimmers and tell them it's not good enough !!, also I would not modify them as then they can then say they have been tampered with and if you have any further problems will not be able to return them :)


Top
   
PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:00 pm 
Offline
TDC Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:35 pm
Posts: 960
Location: Filey, North Yorkshire
Email I sent to Rimmers:
Quote:
Wed, 19 Sep 2018, 11:48
to Rimmer
Just to let you know, the rear springs you supplied (218324HD) don't fit. The outer diameter of the spring coils is too large to fit within the top spring plates (part number 154118)
I've had to fettle the plates/springs to get them to fit as I need the car back on the road urgently.
If it wasn't for my urgent need to get the car on the road I would have returned the springs as unfit for purpose.

Regards,
Sam
So they've been told.
They were also told that their standard HD front springs produce a ride height that is approx. 1" lower than standard.
They said they'd speak to their supplier and then did nothing.

Sadly I've never found an alternative supplier.
Cheers, Sam

_________________
Image


Top
   
PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:16 pm 
Offline
Future Club member hopefully!
Future Club member hopefully!
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:52 pm
Posts: 7562
Location: Halifax, West Yorkshire
Many moons ago when I replaced the rear springs on my 1850, I bought them from T.D. Fitchett and they've been fine ever since. Don't forget that the spring tops are angled so they'll only fit one way.

_________________
Toledo Man

West Yorkshire Area Organiser & forum moderator
Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Old Brickworks, Wakefield Road, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1EA

1972 Dolomite 1850 auto (NYE 751L - Now for sale)
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - another project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!

Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.

"There is only one way to avoid criticsm: Do nothing, say nothing and BE nothing." Aristotle


Top
   
PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:05 pm 
Offline
TDC Member
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:23 pm
Posts: 1173
Location: East Staffordshire
They made out they did not know but I mentioned it has been highlighted to them before. I rang three times last week with details for them to check and had to chase them every time as they never called back when they said they would. Friday they said they would speak to their supplier ( a theme going here ) and would definitely call back Monday AM. They didn't, so i chased again and asked for a manger as I had been dealing with so called "customer services " and they were not helping. Funnily enough a manager was not available and they transferred me to customer services !
Their response was the supplier had not contacted them and there is nothing they could do. What do you suggest i do with useless springs then ? All we can suggest is you send them back.

Tommorow they will be collected and now i need to find some 175lb -1in springs. I have adjustable seat Gaz ready to fit so i am wondering if standard springs will be ok with 250lb ones up front ? I usually run it quite low and don't want to run out of adjustment. Failing that if nobody sells them i will have to have some made up.

I used to support Rimmers from all the flack but they have gone right down in my estimations.

_________________
Mike

1980 Vermillion Sprint - 174bhp


Top
   
PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:42 pm 
Offline
TDC Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:35 pm
Posts: 960
Location: Filey, North Yorkshire
The last email I got from them on the subject of springs that aren't as described:
Quote:
customer.services@rimmerbros.com <customer.services@rimmerbros.com>
Mon, 1 Oct 2018, 09:51
Dear Sam,
I have forwarded this extra information onto the purchasing department for review. I’ll be in touch once I have any further information.
Thank you for your continued patience.
I responded/chased:
Quote:
Sam Clayton <sam@the-claytons.me>
21 Nov 2018, 16:32
to Rimmer

Did you ever manage to make any progress on this issue?
Regards,
Sam
I just gave up after that.
Sadly I needed the car urgently on the road for events.

_________________
Image


Top
   
PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:54 pm 
Offline
TDC Shropshire Area Organiser

Joined: Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:12 pm
Posts: 7047
Location: Highley, Shropshire
You won't run out of adjustment with Gaz, Mike!

I've got stock Sprint front springs and stock Toledo rears on Gaz ASP and it's as low as it can get without ripping out the sump plug, but still some adjustment left!


Image

Steve

Looking closer at that pic, which is a few years old, it's lower than that now, the springs (which were NOS) have settled further with time!

_________________
'73 2 door Toledo with Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 8v engine (The Carledo)
'78 Sprint Auto with Vauxhall Omega 2.2 16v engine (The Dolomega)
'72 Triumph 1500FWD in Slate Grey, Now with RWD and Carledo powertrain!

Maverick Triumph, Servicing, Repairs, Electrical, Recomissioning, MOT prep, Trackerjack brake fitting service.
Apprentice served Triumph Specialist for 50 years. PM for more info or quotes.


Last edited by Carledo on Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
   
PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:04 pm 
Offline
TDC Shropshire Area Organiser

Joined: Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:12 pm
Posts: 7047
Location: Highley, Shropshire
As an aside, I personally don't reckon you need stiffer than stock (140lb?) rear springs, but I do like a soft tail!

Too hard on the rear is actually counter productive unless you have an LSD, the inside rear wheel will lift and lose traction on hard cornering if it can't roll a bit!

Steve

_________________
'73 2 door Toledo with Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 8v engine (The Carledo)
'78 Sprint Auto with Vauxhall Omega 2.2 16v engine (The Dolomega)
'72 Triumph 1500FWD in Slate Grey, Now with RWD and Carledo powertrain!

Maverick Triumph, Servicing, Repairs, Electrical, Recomissioning, MOT prep, Trackerjack brake fitting service.
Apprentice served Triumph Specialist for 50 years. PM for more info or quotes.


Top
   
PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:05 pm 
Offline
TDC Member
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:23 pm
Posts: 1173
Location: East Staffordshire
Thanks Steve.

I think standard may be ok on the rears as it is supposed to be soft with harder fronts. As you know I use it on the road and track.. Not sure how hard it is going to be to get 250 fronts however so I am thinking I may have to try and get a refund on the shocks as well and go the AVO route as it seems you can get numerous springs for those ..

_________________
Mike

1980 Vermillion Sprint - 174bhp


Top
   
PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:47 pm 
Offline
Future Club member hopefully!
Future Club member hopefully!
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:13 am
Posts: 3173
Location: The continent
Quote:

Looking closer at that pic, which is a few years old, it's lower than that now, the springs (which were NOS) have settled further with time!
These lower themselves and soften too. That was the case already 15 years ago. Also their 2500 springs and all their springs. People want cheap and get cheap. The few that want to spend have to find an alternative themselves.

Jeroen

_________________
Classic Kabelboom Company. For all your wiring needs. http://www.classickabelboomcompany.com


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 14 posts ] 

All times are UTC+01:00


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing, Google and 56 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited