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Author: | GrahamFountain [ Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dolomite Quartz clock |
On the issue of the chrome rings splitting when you take the clock to bits, i.e. to fix the link to the solenoid or adjust the time keeping or gut and replace the mech: I found this listing for a 65mm chrome ring that looks like it will fit. It's not quite the same, but if the ring being bust is the only thing wrong with the clock after repairs, it may be an option - if a bit expensive by the time you've added what I expect to be 8 Euros for P&P. If anybody has a dead one of these clocks, with or without the chrome ring, I could use another for my experiments. Graham |
Author: | Carledo [ Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dolomite Quartz clock |
Graham, you have a PM! Steve |
Author: | RichardHyde [ Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:13 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dolomite Quartz clock |
If your clock doesn’t say Quartz or Keinzle, is there any other way of telling if it’s quartz by looking at it ? Are the backs different ? |
Author: | GrahamFountain [ Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:55 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dolomite Quartz clock |
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If your clock doesn’t say Quartz or Keinzle, is there any other way of telling if it’s quartz by looking at it ? Are the backs different ?
The electrically wound, clockwork ones have a grey plastic ring that slides over three spring clips on the case to locate. Also the second hand sweeps fairly smoothly - I would say it's moving in small jumps no less often than about 4Hz, possibly 8.I haven't got one of the Kienzle quartz ones yet, but from what I've read and been told, the quartz ones have a U shaped bracket with a single central nut, very like the way the 2" meters in the main dash mount. Also, the second hand moves in 1 second jerks. Graham |
Author: | Mad Mart [ Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:30 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dolomite Quartz clock |
I've got both in my hands and I can't see any differences between them. If your clocks are working then, what I call the hybrid clock, makes a clunk about every 2½ minutes as the points get reset. |
Author: | GrahamFountain [ Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:07 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dolomite Quartz clock |
This one says quartz and the mounting is clearly different, so maybe there are multiple types: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-Dash ... 1438.l2649 The clunk is the solenoid re-winding the clockwork, and 2.5 min gaps implies quite a good one - some are less than a minute. It is annoying and can keep you awake while driving, if too frequent. For a quick check it's probably whether it sweeps or jumps each second - assuming I've got that right from what Steve (Carledo) told me, who also commented on the different mounting. Graham |
Author: | Carledo [ Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:28 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dolomite Quartz clock |
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If your clock doesn’t say Quartz or Keinzle, is there any other way of telling if it’s quartz by looking at it ? Are the backs different ?
AFAIK all the early style electro-mechanical clocks are marked "Keinzle" and "W Germany" and all the ones i've seen have had the clip in fitment. The later Quartz clocks can have "Quartz" and "W Germany" or either or none. Most have the U clamp fitment but some early models may be clip in. There are 3 variations in my pic above. But it's a pretty safe bet, that if it has neither Keinzle nor Quartz on it and has a U clamp fitting, it's likely to be a quartz type. In any case the Keinzle clock was only used in Dolomites up to around 1975/6 when it was superceded by the Quartz type. Not to mention the colour of the second hand, which can vary from Honeysuckle to Vermillion, though I suspect this is more due to sunlight degradation than production differences. Steve |
Author: | RichardHyde [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:55 pm ] |
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My only clock says Quartz. Does that mean it will keep good time ?! |
Author: | GrahamFountain [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:45 pm ] |
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Not to mention the colour of the second hand, which can vary from Honeysuckle to Vermillion, though I suspect this is more due to sunlight degradation than production differences.
Not sure how it could be ageing from sunlight, as the sales literature for the early cars shows a pale yellow one and the other identifiable colours - red and white - in the dash instruments look right. I'd expect it to fade over time from susceptibility to sunlight, i.e. bleach, not get darker. I know Mike Barker went for a pale yellow one, presumably because he saw that as right for the 73 cars. Steve So I suspect it's production differences more than ageing. But I wouldn't know whether its more or less random for any given time of production or if there's a progression of sorts. Graham |
Author: | new to this [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dolomite Quartz clock |
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It will keep good time twice a day
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Author: | Carledo [ Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:29 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dolomite Quartz clock |
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The Quartz type seem, in general, to keep time better than the Keinzle EM type, though that's not saying much! The only one i've actually tested long term is the Quartz clock in the Dolomega. I set it correct against my phone back in April 2020 and have checked it periodically since. Last time I looked, about a week ago, it had gained slightly less than 4 mins (allowing for the change from daylight saving last October) Which is close enough for it not to annoy me!Steve |
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