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Author: | blacksprint [ Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:27 am ] |
Post subject: | Vertical links Alloy? |
Can I ask if there were any aftermarket vertical links manufactured in alloy? Seem to recall one time that someone had some made. If not. Does anyone have any spare ones (for trackerjack conversion) |
Author: | xvivalve [ Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Vertical links Alloy? |
I don't recall alloy versions, and don't think I'd like to rely on them to be frank, but NOS still available fairly reasonably from Rimmers here: https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-311449 |
Author: | TrustNo1 [ Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Vertical links Alloy? |
how much do the upright weighs, is the weight saving worth all the work? |
Author: | Boost All The Dollys [ Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Vertical links Alloy? |
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how much do the upright weighs, is the weight saving worth all the work?
The original Triumph ones weigh a fair bit!! more than I was expecting when I took them off, Maybe around 5kg but someone else will probably have better info. Estimated for the one above was around 1kg And it’s a reduction of unsprung mass which more effective |
Author: | new to this [ Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:36 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Vertical links Alloy? |
Quote: Quote:
how much do the upright weighs, is the weight saving worth all the work?
The original Triumph ones weigh a fair bit!! more than I was expecting when I took them off, Maybe around 5kg but someone else will probably have better info. Estimated for the one above was around 1kg And it’s a reduction of unsprung mass which more effective Dave |
Author: | Boost All The Dollys [ Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:21 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Vertical links Alloy? |
Quote: Quote: Quote:
how much do the upright weighs, is the weight saving worth all the work?
The original Triumph ones weigh a fair bit!! more than I was expecting when I took them off, Maybe around 5kg but someone else will probably have better info. Estimated for the one above was around 1kg And it’s a reduction of unsprung mass which more effective Dave I do intend on going to alloy hubs when I can afford them. |
Author: | new to this [ Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Vertical links Alloy? |
Quote: Quote: Quote: The original Triumph ones weigh a fair bit!! more than I was expecting when I took them off, Maybe around 5kg but someone else will probably have better info. Estimated for the one above was around 1kg And it’s a reduction of unsprung mass which more effective Dave I do intend on going to alloy hubs when I can afford them. Dave |
Author: | roger440 [ Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Vertical links Alloy? |
Quote: Quote:
how much do the upright weighs, is the weight saving worth all the work?
The original Triumph ones weigh a fair bit!! more than I was expecting when I took them off, Maybe around 5kg but someone else will probably have better info. Estimated for the one above was around 1kg And it’s a reduction of unsprung mass which more effective For a alloy version, i wouldnt even consider it unless you can get an FEA analysis on it first. Certainly not if you sell them. Id be surprised if there is enough money it though. |
Author: | Boost All The Dollys [ Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:07 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Vertical links Alloy? |
Quote: Quote: Quote:
how much do the upright weighs, is the weight saving worth all the work?
The original Triumph ones weigh a fair bit!! more than I was expecting when I took them off, Maybe around 5kg but someone else will probably have better info. Estimated for the one above was around 1kg And it’s a reduction of unsprung mass which more effective For a alloy version, i wouldnt even consider it unless you can get an FEA analysis on it first. Certainly not if you sell them. Id be surprised if there is enough money it though. I’ve done some FEA on them, but I keep changing the design to suit manufacturability so I haven’t done one in a bit. I also need to work out what parameters I need to build to, like what kind of forces will be acting on them in worst case scenario (full bump etc.). I might get ahold of a spare hub to see what kind of load it would break at and design to that parameter. I think firstly, I’m going to 3D print one to check fitment and clearance. Yes, I dont think it’s a smart venture commercially, which is why I was only really looking at them for myself and if anyone wants a set, I could provide the parts but maybe get someone else to weld them properly. |
Author: | SprintV8 [ Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:22 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Vertical links Alloy? |
Your going to need to beef up the steering arm mounting points. I know is only a drawing at this stage it is in need of much more strengthening. Providing you copy the original mounting points and location of the original vertical upright. There shouldn’t be any issues with bump steer ETC unless Triumph got it wrong to start with. Large stub axle. What are you guys using and from where. Are these for Escort or Triumph hubs. |
Author: | xvivalve [ Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:18 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Vertical links Alloy? |
Doesn’t the GT6 provide a longer stub axle which fits? |
Author: | Boost All The Dollys [ Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:44 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Vertical links Alloy? |
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Your going to need to beef up the steering arm mounting points.
You mean the lower ball joint mount? Are these known for flexing or breaking? I’ll definitely consider it. I know is only a drawing at this stage it is in need of much more strengthening. Providing you copy the original mounting points and location of the original vertical upright. There shouldn’t be any issues with bump steer ETC unless Triumph got it wrong to start with. Large stub axle. What are you guys using and from where. Are these for Escort or Triumph hubs. And I’d more than likely copy it so it’s a drop in part. I have looked at the triumph suspension to find out camber curves and caster angles but haven’t looked at bump steer yet as I haven’t had the time to model up the steering rack and subframe fully yet, I just have a half-ok representation of the suspension mounts and arms. And this would be a direct replacement for the stock triumph upright. Which can be used with the Sprintspeed stub axles to use a Ford Escort RS hub, either alloy or iron. And I’d never heard of a larger bearing stub axle available for the Dolomite till someone here mentioned it so if the GT6 one works, I’d go with their knowledge and judgement. And seeing as the ST parts for the triumph seems to be just parts off other triumphs, I’d guess that it’s likely that the better hub axles would be GT6 |
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