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 Post subject: Airless Spray Guns
PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:38 am 
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I'm in need of the ability to do some spraying, using automotive paints, but don't particularly want to invest in a compressor that will lie idle for most of the time. Am thus considering airless spray guns. I would be grateful for any experience that can be shared, as to quality, ease of use, etc. Specific recommendations as to brand and model also very helpful. Many thanks.
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 Post subject: Re: Airless Spray Guns
PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:54 am 
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Years ago the Apollo stuff was well reviewed in articles, but it was noted that progress was slow. Not airless, but those hvlp systems are fairly well priced....

Of course there are some very expensive options, which you won't want to even think about!

But avoiding the cheapest, and googling some of the reviews may help. But just remember the manufacturer reviews tend to make things look far better,/easier than reality.

(Sorry, not really helpful, just thoughts)

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 Post subject: Re: Airless Spray Guns
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How about these? http://www.earlex.co.uk/consumer-products/

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 Post subject: Re: Airless Spray Guns
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:12 pm 
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My advice is get a compressor, I looked into the electric option and most are only good for spraying fences. The compressor will give you far more options as far as spraying equipment goes. Getting a decent finish at home is difficult enough as it is, without hobbling yourself with inferior tools.

If you don't want the compressor after the job is finished, just put it on ebay and get some of your cash back.


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 Post subject: Re: Airless Spray Guns
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:59 pm 
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My advice is get a compressor, I looked into the electric option and most are only good for spraying fences. The compressor will give you far more options as far as spraying equipment goes. Getting a decent finish at home is difficult enough as it is, without hobbling yourself with inferior tools.

If you don't want the compressor after the job is finished, just put it on ebay and get some of your cash back.
I agree that a compressor is the best way to go and also that home paintwork is a tough row to hoe

But doing it properly is not cheap! You need a compressor at least 3 levels better than the sort you get from Aldi, with a good FAD (free air delivery) then you need a good quality water trap, line, a decent spraygun (or 2, I always kept separate primer and finishing guns) plus, if you're using 2 pack, breathing gear and impermeable overalls. Isocyanates are NOT good for you! Finally you need a warm, dry, clean, dust and silicone free environment to paint in. If you've so much as sprayed one bolt with WD40 in the space you are painting in, your finish will pay the price!

I used to paint cars quite often at work and I've painted several cars at home, with varying results. I don't do it any more, it's too time consuming for my level of perfectionism, there are too many things to go wrong and i'm getting too old for that s**t! Nowadays I leave it to a trusted professional and pay the price!

The second car I ever painted, circa 1973, was a cheap blow over on my neighbour's girlfriend's Anglia 105E. We used about 10 different shades of dark blue paint mixed together (celly in those days) from my works paint store, thinned with gunwash thinners and painted it in the street with an HVLP spray gun run by an old cylinder vacuum cleaner! Needless to say the finish was not too special, but a quick wet flat with 1000 grit wet and dry and some polish at least put a shine on it! The council's environmental health dept would have 50 fits if you tried that today!

So you CAN get a half decent finish with inferior gear, but that's ALL you'll get. If Richard is happy with that for whatever he's painting, then carry on and good luck is my advice!

Steve

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 Post subject: Re: Airless Spray Guns
PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:56 pm 
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Thanks for the replies; excellent advice. Thanks Steve for your comprehensive response. I'm spraying the body of a 1970s Reverchon Atlantic dodgem. So, not a huge area to cover; but I do want a quality finish - in some sort of 1970s shiny purple colour!
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