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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:27 am 
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Hi Chaps, i know Boris has said essential journey's only, but can we go for a pleasure run in our cars and get out? Dont get me wrong i am staying put. But to me it's not very clear. Public transport and walking into shops i get that, but a car is a sealed capsule.
How do you chaps read it?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:47 am 
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I would say not, if you breakdown you will need help, that means contact with someone you would otherwise not have contact with.
Essential travel only is how I see it. :(

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:49 am 
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I too thought it was a bit vague, but I think it was aimed at what happened over the weekend in the Lake district, Snowdonia, on the london tube and other places around the UK - peolpe gathering, give them an inch and the take a mile. If it continues then a total lock down will happen like in spain and Italy and we dont want that to happen.

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The UK government's advice/instruction has been vague on quite a lot.
They do have documents outlining what is what but they do take some deciphering.

However the Scottish Government (amongst others?) have done the necessary and laid out clearer instructions.



To answer Tony's question,
It is essential travel only, ie attending the hospital or going food shopping.




:) Before anybody asks, for taking exercise, you are to start and finish said exercise at home, so therefore don't require transport
whether it be private or public.



On a positive note, it is good to see the genuine cooperation between politicians during this pandemic.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:19 pm 
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Thanks Ian, i wasn't planning to go out as i am classified as at risk :wink: But it just wasn't clear and could not find any answers on line. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Before anybody asks, for taking exercise, you are to start and finish said exercise at home, so therefore don't require transport
whether it be private or public.
Ian.
Yesterday a government minister answered questions on this on the TV. He said that it was ok to use a car to go to the park or out to an isolated area to exercise and then keep to the two metre rules. If on arriving you find it is crowded, as was the cases at the weekend, turn round and go home. It was also suggested that 20 mins was about right for outside exercise in "busy" areas, towns etc where the chances of seeing others was probable but out in the countryside you could walk for hours where you are alone.

Still to me this does not take in the risk of you having an accident on the road or breaking a leg in an isolated area and putting a very much unnecessary extra burden on the emergency services at this time.


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Before anybody asks, for taking exercise, you are to start and finish said exercise at home, so therefore don't require transport
whether it be private or public.
Ian.
Yesterday a government minister answered questions on this on the TV. He said that it was ok to use a car to go to the park or out to an isolated area to exercise and then keep to the two metre rules. If on arriving you find it is crowded, as was the cases at the weekend, turn round and go home. It was also suggested that 20 mins was about right for outside exercise in "busy" areas, towns etc where the chances of seeing others was probable but out in the countryside you could walk for hours where you are alone.

Still to me this does not take in the risk of you having an accident on the road or breaking a leg in an isolated area and putting a very much unnecessary extra burden on the emergency services at this time.
Today, no doubt, said minister will be correcting his incorrect advice!

It is essential car journeys only.




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Still to me this does not take in the risk of you having an accident on the road or breaking a leg in an isolated area and putting a very much unnecessary extra burden on the emergency services at this time.
Crikey, those risks are extremely low. Too low to count I would say.
Think how often you have an accident or break down (hmm, some cars do have a habit I suppose) but walking injury? Absolutely call that negligible. More risk in a supermarket.
No, people should be encouraged to exercise, and out of town is just a joy.

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Still to me this does not take in the risk of you having an accident on the road or breaking a leg in an isolated area and putting a very much unnecessary extra burden on the emergency services at this time.
Crikey, those risks are extremely low. Too low to count I would say.
Think how often you have an accident or break down (hmm, some cars do have a habit I suppose) but walking injury? Absolutely call that negligible. More risk in a supermarket.
No, people should be encouraged to exercise, and out of town is just a joy.
Slim risk it may be but think of the resources needed to come out to a head on crash.

Today on line we are being advised not to drive on country roads because these are the most dangerous of all and have far greater accident rates than all the others. This new advise is for exactly the reasons I said, to avoid the extra stresses on the emergency services that will cause reduced treatment in hospitals and ambulance coverage for all.


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Great! I LIVE in the country and have to travel those same country roads to get to a supermarket even (the nearest being 7 miles away) I wish the bu***rs would make up their minds!

We NORMALLY have our supermarket shopping delivered, but currently can't even get on the overloaded website to order any shopping, let alone get a delivery date (which, for our nearest Asda is somewhere towards the end of April at the earliest!) so i'm forced to go out and buy staples, just to keep the family fed!

Meantime I am staying at home as much as possible and getting on with what I CAN do there! So far there seems very little incidence of the virus in my immediate vicinity and i'm praying it stays that way.

I guess I shouldn't whinge when people less fortunate than I am are literally dying, but a harmless rant helps you vent! Even though it does no good, it makes ME feel better!

Stay safe everyone!

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I also live in the countryside, so have to drive if i need anything same as Steve. Store delivery impossible :wary: Did a click and collect from a Morrissons, more like click and give back as everything (almost) we wanted was substituted for something else at more than twice the price :roll: Mostly they had given us vegan crap that was close to sell by date. Wont be doing that again :(

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Think how often you have an accident or break down (hmm, some cars do have a habit I suppose) but walking injury? Absolutely call that negligible. More risk in a supermarket.
No, people should be encouraged to exercise, and out of town is just a joy.
Please read this Clive
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... s-51908466




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Think how often you have an accident or break down (hmm, some cars do have a habit I suppose) but walking injury? Absolutely call that negligible. More risk in a supermarket.
No, people should be encouraged to exercise, and out of town is just a joy.
Please read this Clive
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... s-51908466

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Agree totally. To go off into areas you don't know etc is daft. But sticking to a a clear path and a straightforward route means the risks are so tiny as to be about zero. The South Downs are a fantastic place. I can be up there with a 15minute run from my suburban home. Usually you see a few cyclists/walkers etc, but I am/have recovered from "something" so only just allowed to get outside my house/garden. (spent a few hours each day tidying that garage, the first day I managed about an hour before I was knackered, yesterday I was OK doing most of the day on/off) It will be interesting how busy these paths will be. A few friends have been running up there and reported seeing a few people, and one said she keeps seeing groups of cyclists on her route.

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Before anybody asks, for taking exercise, you are to start and finish said exercise at home, so therefore don't require transport
whether it be private or public.
Ian.
Yesterday a government minister answered questions on this on the TV. He said that it was ok to use a car to go to the park or out to an isolated area to exercise and then keep to the two metre rules. If on arriving you find it is crowded, as was the cases at the weekend, turn round and go home. It was also suggested that 20 mins was about right for outside exercise in "busy" areas, towns etc where the chances of seeing others was probable but out in the countryside you could walk for hours where you are alone.

Still to me this does not take in the risk of you having an accident on the road or breaking a leg in an isolated area and putting a very much unnecessary extra burden on the emergency services at this time.
Today, no doubt, said minister will be correcting his incorrect advice!

It is essential car journeys only.




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And this is exactly what has happened, yesterday the police saying trips to exercise in the country are not acceptable and not essential backed up by Ms Patel


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I also live in the countryside, so have to drive if i need anything same as Steve. Store delivery impossible :wary: Did a click and collect from a Morrissons, more like click and give back as everything (almost) we wanted was substituted for something else at more than twice the price :roll: Mostly they had given us vegan crap that was close to sell by date. Wont be doing that again :(

Tony.
I don't think this applies to people like you and Steve as trips to the supermarket is essential. Its to stop the city and town dwellers from going out into the country to escape.

Today locals have been complaining about how many people were crowding into the local village park and Rec. all crowding together looking to exercise their kids and dogs. A walk down the street seems the only allowed exercise.


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