Wing removal and front end overhaul

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Re: Wing removal and front end overhaul

#31 Post by Carledo »

Nathan Mwk 627G wrote:When I did the same work on my 1300fw earlier this year I used weld through primer on all the edges that were to be welded, worked great and you have the satisfaction that there is something there protecting the edges, I used a brush on type I bought from Stoneleigh, id never used it before but I was impressed with it.

When you have completed the rebuild the easiest way of getting wax oil in the sills was to drill some holes on the "upper" sill, around the area that is usually covered with the tread plate, I blasted about 1.5L each side using a compressor.....once your done refit the tread plates and nobody is non the wiser that its been done like that!

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Toledos don't have tread plates Nath! Good idea otherwise!
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#32 Post by Nathan Mwk 627G »

dumb moment there, I'm blaming the heat :lol: :bonk:

Ill get my coat and leave quietly #-o #-o

Could of course fit tread plates I suppose!!

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#33 Post by Carledo »

Nathan Mwk 627G wrote:dumb moment there, I'm blaming the heat :lol: :bonk:

Ill get my coat and leave quietly #-o #-o

Could of course fit tread plates I suppose!!

Nathan
Still the heat talking Nath! Daves (and mine) is a 2 door car so a standard 4 door treadplate would look a little lost in the longer 2 door opening (though I guess we could possibly use one from a Stag or similar - if we could be bothered!)

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#34 Post by ToledoZombie »

Hi all , it's been a while since I've been on here. Sadly not much had been done to the car due to a busy summer at work. However here's a photo update of the little progress I made this week. Please excuse the scissor jack, it's just holding the cill roughly in place as it started raining and I didn't want to leave my grips in place.
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Re: Wing removal and front end overhaul

#35 Post by Carledo »

:thumbsup: Nice work!

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#36 Post by ToledoZombie »

Hi all, we'll after a year under a cover I've finally had some time to carry on with the Toledo.
When I was last here I'd fitted the cill on the near side but notice now that there is no drains on the club cill, just wondered how others have got round this?

Here's what I've done this week
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#37 Post by DoloWIGHTY »

ToledoZombie wrote: When I was last here I'd fitted the cill on the near side but notice now that there is no drains on the club cill, just wondered how others have got round this?
As far as I am aware the cills on our cars never had drain holes. There are some in the base of the front wings but that is just to take the water away that washes down the guttering.
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#38 Post by DOLOMITE 135 »

With reference to the sill drains, these are incorporated into the lower flange of the inner sill. They consist of indents to the flange approximately 30-40mm long, if you have a parts graphic catalogue they are shown on the drawing for the inner sill as three cut outs.

Edit: I have just noticed the second to last photo on the previous page shows two cut outs in the approximate positions to the indents on the NOS inner sills I have, so perhaps the drains evolved during the production life of the cars?

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#39 Post by DoloWIGHTY »

Interesting, I can honestly say I have never noticed any. Why would they need drain holes though, where are they draining water from?
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Yes there is indeed 3 indents in the old sills. When I progress to doing the othe side I will try and get some photos.
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#41 Post by Ron1966 »

Quality work but one thing has me puzzled though and that is what appears to be an extra panel on the bottom of the inner front panel which appears to link it to the outer front lower valance. Never worked on two door Tollies though but every Dolomite I have worked on or repaired has never had this extra bit of metal. Keep up the excellent work.
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#42 Post by Maidstonerob »

Impressive work there. Can the club inner valance repair panels be done without removing the wing / eyebrow?
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#43 Post by SprintMWU773V »

DoloWIGHTY wrote:Interesting, I can honestly say I have never noticed any. Why would they need drain holes though, where are they draining water from?
Sills rust as condensation forms inside the box section, you need the drain to drain this water and also to allow air to flow through and dry it out.
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Re: Wing removal and front end overhaul

#44 Post by xvivalve »

Rob,

If you trim some metal off the repair panel, and have enough of the original left to weld to, you should be able to work from inside the wheel arch, but space will be tight and getting the repair secured in the correct position not as easy as if the wing is off.
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#45 Post by Maidstonerob »

xvivalve wrote:Rob,

If you trim some metal off the repair panel, and have enough of the original left to weld to, you should be able to work from inside the wheel arch, but space will be tight and getting the repair secured in the correct position not as easy as if the wing is off.
Thanks, kind of dread taking the wings off looks like the off side one on VGK has been done by trimming as you say.
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