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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:04 pm 
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Details from Mintex if it helps at all:
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:26 pm 
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I wouldn't be surprised if manufacturers stopped making them, that's a pretty good list of cars you never ever see any more. Nothing newer than 1984 unless its a Morgan...

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:40 pm 
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"Borg and Beck" (OK not proper ones, the new B+B made by FrontLine) seem to produce them, no idea if any good....
But plenty of choice on good old fleabay, including Girling.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from ... s&_sacat=0

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:27 pm 
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EBC are still making them eg. https://www.ebcbrakeshop.co.uk/ebc-yell ... 157144.htm

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:20 pm 
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Sorry to be late with this one , but I have a box of original Ferodo pads and the box description cross-refers to these ...
Austin Allegro /1100 /1300 / without servo; 73 --->
Ford;
Capri 1300L 72 --->May 73.
Capri 1300 69 ---> May 73.
Cortina 1300 / 1500 /1600 67 --->70.
Cortina 1200 / 1500 Super 65 ---> 66.
Morris
Marina 1.8
Marina 1.3 (Discs)
Triumph 1500 & TC. 70 --->74
Dolomite 1300 & 1500. 75 --->
"Dolomite" 70 --->74
Toledo (Discs) 73 --->74

Vauxhall ( Girling brakes )
Firenza 1800 & 2300
Viva 1800 & 2300
Viva GT (HBR)

So not specifically Sprint but may "fit".
And nothing that is around these days in great numbers like MGBs or Morris Minors.

Tony.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm led to believe that in the earlier days the sprint pads were a harder compound so wouldn't had been listed as the same as a lowly 1500TC or Triumph 1300?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:36 pm 
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Absolutely right, Girling 64326961MR no less. What hardness modern pads are sans asbestos in comparison to the original I've no idea, though the EBC Yellowstuff pads are touted as suitable for fast road car use with a low fade material.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:11 am 
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I've recently changed the brake pads of my Sprint from EBC GreenStuff to Mintex M1144, both easily obtainable though Motorshop parts suppliers or ebay.

EBC GreenStuff: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EBC-GreenStu ... :rk:1:pf:0

Mintex M1144: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MGB535-M1144 ... :rk:1:pf:0

I've found that the GreenStuff had a very good initial "bite" but when braking longer and from higher speeds, couldn't quite keep up. I had them overheat once with loss of braking efficiency. Pedal feel is difficult to describe, but I would call a bit cushioned. The adds say no brake dust, but this wasn't so with my Sprint. It's easily cleanable though.

The Mintex M1144 compound is the first Motorsport upgrade from standard pad material (they have MGB535 pads in standard, M1144, M1155 and M1166 compound). With these M1144 pads, the initial bite is comparable with the GreenStuff, but the pads keep up with heavier braking and temperatures. The general feel is a bit harsher than the GreenStuff, giving a more robust pedal feel with a bit more "grinding" noise from the discs, sometimes brake squeal and also a bit more black dust on your wheels.

In conclusion, I'm happier with the Mintex M1144 pads and would consider this one of the best options for weekend/sporty driving if using standard discs.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:40 am 
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The Mintex M1144 compound is the first Motorsport upgrade from standard pad material (they have MGB535 pads in standard, M1144, M1155 and M1166 compound). With these M1144 pads, the initial bite is comparable with the GreenStuff, but the pads keep up with heavier braking and temperatures. The general feel is a bit harsher than the GreenStuff, giving a more robust pedal feel with a bit more "grinding" noise from the discs, sometimes brake squeal and also a bit more black dust on your wheels.

In conclusion, I'm happier with the Mintex M1144 pads and would consider this one of the best options for weekend/sporty driving if using standard discs.


All the best! :)
Sam (Yorkshire Spam), were these the Mintex pads that you used on Binny?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:02 pm 
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I've recently changed the brake pads of my Sprint from EBC GreenStuff to Mintex M1144, both easily obtainable though Motorshop parts suppliers or ebay.

EBC GreenStuff: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EBC-GreenStu ... :rk:1:pf:0

Mintex M1144: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MGB535-M1144 ... :rk:1:pf:0

I've found that the GreenStuff had a very good initial "bite" but when braking longer and from higher speeds, couldn't quite keep up. I had them overheat once with loss of braking efficiency. Pedal feel is difficult to describe, but I would call a bit cushioned. The adds say no brake dust, but this wasn't so with my Sprint. It's easily cleanable though.

The Mintex M1144 compound is the first Motorsport upgrade from standard pad material (they have MGB535 pads in standard, M1144, M1155 and M1166 compound). With these M1144 pads, the initial bite is comparable with the GreenStuff, but the pads keep up with heavier braking and temperatures. The general feel is a bit harsher than the GreenStuff, giving a more robust pedal feel with a bit more "grinding" noise from the discs, sometimes brake squeal and also a bit more black dust on your wheels.

In conclusion, I'm happier with the Mintex M1144 pads and would consider this one of the best options for weekend/sporty driving if using standard discs.


All the best! :)
That makes two Dutch who use the Mintex.

I guess this has to convince all of you and no more questions needed.

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I use the standard Mintex MGB535 material on my 1850, more dust than the nos asbestos Ferodos, but they stop the car!


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:55 pm 
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Thanks for all the excellent advice that has now been posted.

I had seen adds on eBay for pads but having heard so much on other club sites about fake pads, especially Mintex, and recently having twice purchased cars with recent brake replacements that have had failed components soon after purchase, now only go to a known retailer who I can trust or get back to. One of the cars I was told had just been fitted with Pagid pads and discs that when I contacted the seller after they disintegrated found they came off eBay. The second, my current Volvo, I have know idea where they came from but were branded Bosch and a few weeks after buying the car took out what looked like newish pads just to check them and they broke up. Chunks fell off and they had laminating cracks in them. A friend, also a Volvo owner, then a few months ago had his pads disintegrate on braking, again Bosch branded and the surviving pad had loads of life left. This I recognise will have restricted my searching but you will understand why, once bitten twice shy. With the information posted now it will be easier to look for alternatives for standard requirements.

I did know EBC were manufacturing them, but as I said in my first post, I had been advised off them on noise, dust, and short life and not so positive comments by users. The extra braking efficiency was not required for a 1300 that I find standard pads to be perfectly adequate for, and the extra cost was also a consideration. The new ones fitted are TRW and listed for a Sprint plus the whole range. How good they are is still to be discovered as I haven't yet been able to bed them in.


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That makes two Dutch who use the Mintex.

I guess this has to convince all of you and no more questions needed.

Jeroen

That's not my understanding of the meaning 'Double Dutch'?

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I had seen adds on eBay for pads
Triumph 1300 (the front wheel drive variant of the Dolomite family) search on Ebay usually brings up old stock pads or parts from known suppliers.

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That makes two Dutch who use the Mintex.

I guess this has to convince all of you and no more questions needed.

Jeroen

That's not my understanding of the meaning 'Double Dutch'?
You will be totally safe and protected using Mintex pads.

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