What is the function of this cover on the 1850 head?
What is the function of this cover on the 1850 head?
On the back of the 1850 cylinder head there is this cover, ringed in my photo. What is it for? Mine appears to be leaking oil at the bottom edge. Do all five bolts have to be removed to get it off? Are there any booby traps like springs or ball bearings inside?
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Re: What is the function of this cover on the 1850 head?
It's the coolant transfer housing gasket gone, if I remember correctly there is no surprises when removed and all bolts need removing.
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Re: What is the function of this cover on the 1850 head?
As Mahoney says, no problem in changing the cover but there are 2 types of gasket : Early and Late.
The gasket only seals the water-ways though so if there is oil leaking its probably coming from higher up on the head, like the cam cover gasket or the half-moon seal.
Tony.
The gasket only seals the water-ways though so if there is oil leaking its probably coming from higher up on the head, like the cam cover gasket or the half-moon seal.
Tony.
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Re: What is the function of this cover on the 1850 head?
Shout if you need a gasket, I have a few!
Though I don't think it should be leaking oil...
Though I don't think it should be leaking oil...
Re: What is the function of this cover on the 1850 head?
Hmm. It's not easy to see back there. All I know is that there were oil drops on the starter motor and i assumed it was coming from that plate. Will try to have a better look with a mirror.MIG Wielder wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:40 pm As Mahoney says, no problem in changing the cover but there are 2 types of gasket : Early and Late.
The gasket only seals the water-ways though so if there is oil leaking its probably coming from higher up on the head, like the cam cover gasket or the half-moon seal.
Tony.
Although honestly that's the least of the oil leaks. I rebuilt this engine and gearbox 18 months ago with all new gaskets and oil seals, but it makes a real mess on the drive, mostly from the bell housing. I think it is the back of the engine that is the culprit, but it could be the front of the gearbox. Whatever, the only way to fix it is to remove the lump again. Joy.
It will have to wait. The car is booked in to the Silverstone Classic weekend at the end of the month with the TSSC. 380 miles each way should test it out properly!
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Re: What is the function of this cover on the 1850 head?
There is a known problem with replacement rear main oil seals on slant engines, insofar as the wire ring doesn't have sufficient tension. There are a couple of potential cures on here by Jeroen and JT. Or get one from a known supplier of decent ones, I believe Robsport is well thought of in this instance.Bumpa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:06 amHmm. It's not easy to see back there. All I know is that there were oil drops on the starter motor and i assumed it was coming from that plate. Will try to have a better look with a mirror.MIG Wielder wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:40 pm As Mahoney says, no problem in changing the cover but there are 2 types of gasket : Early and Late.
The gasket only seals the water-ways though so if there is oil leaking its probably coming from higher up on the head, like the cam cover gasket or the half-moon seal.
Tony.
Although honestly that's the least of the oil leaks. I rebuilt this engine and gearbox 18 months ago with all new gaskets and oil seals, but it makes a real mess on the drive, mostly from the bell housing. I think it is the back of the engine that is the culprit, but it could be the front of the gearbox. Whatever, the only way to fix it is to remove the lump again. Joy.
It will have to wait. The car is booked in to the Silverstone Classic weekend at the end of the month with the TSSC. 380 miles each way should test it out properly!
The gearbox front seal is a less likely culprit unless a) it's an early 3 rail box, which shouldn't be in your car and b) you habitually park it nose down on a steep slope!
I know this doesn't help much when you are STILL facing an engine out situation, please accept my sympathy, but not too much, YOU bought a Dolomite!
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Re: What is the function of this cover on the 1850 head?
The last time I had the engine out of the 1850, I replaced the rear crankshaft oil seal (a while-it-was-accessible job) which had been supplied by S&S Preparations. They're TR7 specialists but there's some overlap with the 1850 (and the Sprint to a lesser extent). Robsport and TD Fitchett are other suppliers I would recommend. The "gearbox out" method might be preferable to taking the engine out.
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Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
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1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
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Re: What is the function of this cover on the 1850 head?
Ha, you're wrong there Steve. I was given the car for nowt. Dry stored for 24 years. Only two owners from new, the second one being my brother-in-law who purchased it in 1980 when it was a mere three years old.
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Re: What is the function of this cover on the 1850 head?
Well they say anything free is worth what you pay for it, but you have certainly added considerable value since then!
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