A moment of madness

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A moment of madness

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After seeing Phils photo of his Dolomite with Stag wheels i thought id have a go

first point was buy a pair of Stag front hubs

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You can see the difference in size between the Dolomite hub and the stag


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you also need to change the stub axle,the yoke on the Dolomite has the steering arm built in wear to stag has a seperate arm,so i needed to make up a spacer

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I already had the Trackerjack brakes,but upgraded them to take 260mm disc and bigger calipers


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Then came the hard bit getting the rear hubs done,first i made a rear hub puller
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But that didnt work on my car so took the half shafts out and put them in a press,i went to a 3 engineering shops to modify my Stag rear hubs to fit on the Dolomite,they all said they could machine the tapper but the key way was the hard part to do,in the end i found some who modified my Dolomite hubs,with a bigger flange,it was at this point i almost gave up

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The next stage was upgrading the rear brakes


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My new back plate was just a little bit thicker than the original so it made it easier with a shims

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Yes there were lots of bits painted blue :D :D
Now i couldnt leave those wheels looking shabby could i :D :D

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Looks great...guess you get more choice of tyres ?

Are you still using the TJ brakes ?

Wouldn’t mind a look next time I’m near you !!
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Yes i am still using the Trackerjack brake set up just a biger disc and brake caliper
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found these wheel logos and they fit :D
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Nice.

What callipers and discs did you use.

Where did the calliper brackets come from
Self made ?.

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2011 Mini Clubman John Cooper Works. S Daily Driver.
1980 Dolomite Sprint with a touch of BLTS
Balanced Lightened and Tweaked 13B Rotary and SsuperCharged.
Back in my possession 22 September 2019.
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352 @ 28/11/2022
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I didn't go quite as big as Dave (260mm discs) Mine are 256mm from a Passat of similar vintage to the Golf one Jon uses on the standard TJ kit. Match these up with 1.7 Puma calipers and carriers and the whole lot fits on the stock TJ caliper brackets. The Puma caliper is the same piston size as the Sierra/Escort/Ka one of the original conversion but the Puma bits allow a much bigger pad than any of those.

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Pictured here inside a 5.5x14" fake minilite, the wheels i'm using on the Dolomega.

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Looking to update the rear for looks more than anything else.

On the front at the moment it’s got Renault Vented discs with massive Jag 4 pot callipers.
2011 Mini Clubman John Cooper Works. S Daily Driver.
1980 Dolomite Sprint with a touch of BLTS
Balanced Lightened and Tweaked 13B Rotary and SsuperCharged.
Back in my possession 22 September 2019.
Rebuilding the Sprint time taken so far, 111Hrs@15/12/2020
212Hrs @31/12/2021
352 @ 28/11/2022
455Hrs @ 20/10/2023
565Hrs @ 07/12/2024
This is time taken at the Sprint not necessary time worked.

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SprintV8 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:27 am Nice.

What callipers and discs did you use.

Where did the calliper brackets come from
Self made ?.

Thanks
On the front i went puma calipers same as Steve,with citroen picasso disc
on the rear rover 600 disc rover 45 calipers, like to keep it all in house :D :D mounting brackets were my own,think i may still have the wooden template

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SprintV8 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:32 pm Looking to update the rear for looks more than anything else.
I've kept the drums which seem to be up to even a competition environment.

I admit rear discs LOOK the part, but i'm not really that bothered personally, if it ain't broke......

I think both you and Dave will be forced to some sort of LSV or pressure control for your new rear discs, to maintain a front/rear balance that is acceptable, or do you plan on bias control?

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Carledo wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:36 pm
SprintV8 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:32 pm Looking to update the rear for looks more than anything else.
I've kept the drums which seem to be up to even a competition environment.

I admit rear discs LOOK the part, but i'm not really that bothered personally, if it ain't broke......

I think both you and Dave will be forced to some sort of LSV or pressure control for your new rear discs, to maintain a front/rear balance that is acceptable, or do you plan on bias control?

Steve
I fitted a bias control in the engine bay,as it was easest place to mount

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In the description you said...

you also need to change the stub axle,the yoke on the Dolomite has the steering arm built in wear to stag has a seperate arm,so i needed to make up a spacer

Why do you need the space ? It goes between the vertical link and the lower ball joint ?

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RichardHyde wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:38 am In the description you said...

you also need to change the stub axle,the yoke on the Dolomite has the steering arm built in wear to stag has a seperate arm,so i needed to make up a spacer

Why do you need the space ? It goes between the vertical link and the lower ball joint ?

Thanks, Richard
Richard

The stub axle from the Stag sticks out the back of the yoke, a bit more because the stag has a separate steering arm,where the Dolomites steering arm, is built in to the yoke. the spacer was there to take up the difference

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The steering are on a Stag is a single item and bolts to the upright.
Steering arm on a Dolomite is part of bottom ball joint which also bolts to the upright.
Stag stub axle pin from memory is longer and fatter than the Dolomite.

There was a write up and photos on the Triumph Owners website,
But it appears the photos are no longer there since it changed servers.

I’m considering going discs on the rear but once it’s up and running.
Already got so many new ideas but must concentrate on priorities first.
2011 Mini Clubman John Cooper Works. S Daily Driver.
1980 Dolomite Sprint with a touch of BLTS
Balanced Lightened and Tweaked 13B Rotary and SsuperCharged.
Back in my possession 22 September 2019.
Rebuilding the Sprint time taken so far, 111Hrs@15/12/2020
212Hrs @31/12/2021
352 @ 28/11/2022
455Hrs @ 20/10/2023
565Hrs @ 07/12/2024
This is time taken at the Sprint not necessary time worked.

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Project 13B Sprint now back on..
No Pistons No Cams how’s it gonna Run Brap Brap?
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