SprintV8 going 13B Rotary

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Re: SprintV8 going 13B Rotary

#16 Post by RichardHyde »

Hi Phill,

I see that you’re using the Sprint diff. What sort of power / torque are you expecting ?

Are you planning on using an LSD or stronger halfshafts etc ?

Thanks, Richard
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Re: SprintV8 going 13B Rotary

#17 Post by SprintV8 »

Richard
Power will be in region 250>280 Bhp (Standard RX8 231bhp)
I’ll got a Eaton M90 Supercharger from a Jaguar XJR. 4.0lt.
Which I’m hoping to fit😏.

She still has the LSD from when it was originally built from me.

I’ve noticed Ken Clarke does strengthened half shafts.
So there’s a option if needed.

Engine mounts are 99.9% done.
Gearbox mount just needs tidying up.
Exhaust manifold again is almost finished.
Propshaft is fitted. ( Slight balls up on rear diff flange size my fault but now has the larger 27mm UJs)
Also located a Greddy large capacity Aluminium sump pan.

Still lots to do.
2021 Triumph Tiger 850 Sport.
2009 Mini Clubman Cooper S Daily Driver.
1980 Dolomite Sprint with a touch of BLTS
Balanced Lightened and Tweaked 13B Rotary and SuperCharged.
Back in my possession 22 September 2019.
Rebuilding the Sprint time taken so far, 111Hrs@15/12/2020
212Hrs @31/12/2021
352 @ 28/11/2022
455Hrs @ 20/10/2023
530. @ 09/07/2024
This is time taken at the Sprint not necessary time worked.

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Re: SprintV8 going 13B Rotary

#18 Post by SprintV8 »

Not much of a update really.
With the full weight of the rotary engine and gearbox.
She’s sitting about 3 inches higher on the front.
New shorter springs ordered 2.1/4 200lbs at a starting point.

Got a Speedbox that changes a Sat Nav signal (Can also use VSS and can bus) into a mechanical rotation so I can use the original speedo.

https://www.speedhut.com/ecommerce/prod ... -Included)

Question is where did the 170mph speedo come from.


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Also ordered a 10,000rpm Rev counter.
https://www.speedhut.com/gauge/GR4-TACH ... hift-light
2021 Triumph Tiger 850 Sport.
2009 Mini Clubman Cooper S Daily Driver.
1980 Dolomite Sprint with a touch of BLTS
Balanced Lightened and Tweaked 13B Rotary and SuperCharged.
Back in my possession 22 September 2019.
Rebuilding the Sprint time taken so far, 111Hrs@15/12/2020
212Hrs @31/12/2021
352 @ 28/11/2022
455Hrs @ 20/10/2023
530. @ 09/07/2024
This is time taken at the Sprint not necessary time worked.

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Project 13B Sprint now back on..
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Re: SprintV8 going 13B Rotary

#19 Post by SprintV8 »

Revcounter arrived.
Does look really good.
Include’s shift light’s.
Max rev recall.
Factory ECU rev limiter is set at 9500.

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2021 Triumph Tiger 850 Sport.
2009 Mini Clubman Cooper S Daily Driver.
1980 Dolomite Sprint with a touch of BLTS
Balanced Lightened and Tweaked 13B Rotary and SuperCharged.
Back in my possession 22 September 2019.
Rebuilding the Sprint time taken so far, 111Hrs@15/12/2020
212Hrs @31/12/2021
352 @ 28/11/2022
455Hrs @ 20/10/2023
530. @ 09/07/2024
This is time taken at the Sprint not necessary time worked.

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Project 13B Sprint now back on..
No Pistons No Cams how’s it gonna Run Brap Brap?
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Re: SprintV8 going 13B Rotary

#20 Post by Carledo »

SprintV8 wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:20 pm Not much of a update really.
With the full weight of the rotary engine and gearbox.
She’s sitting about 3 inches higher on the front.
New shorter springs ordered 2.1/4 200lbs at a starting point.

Got a Speedbox that changes a Sat Nav signal (Can also use VSS and can bus) into a mechanical rotation so I can use the original speedo.

https://www.speedhut.com/ecommerce/prod ... -Included)

Question is where did the 170mph speedo come from.
It looks like a Smiths Classic. Aftermarket product fom Smiths, you can get it with cable or electronic operation, I have the electronic version in the Dolomega as the Omega's speedo was driven off the ABS signal. Yours looks like a 1000TPM drive ratio, coincidentally exactly the same as the Sprint original.

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Steve

PS, I'm under no illusions of being able to get mine up to 180mph! The Carledo won't go much over 115 @ 5100 rpm in 5th gear, even though the limiter doesn't cut in till 7200rpm. The aerodynamics (or lack thereof) stops it before it's anywhere near flat out.
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'78 Sprint Auto with Vauxhall Omega 2.2 16v engine (The Dolomega)
'72 Triumph 1500FWD in Slate Grey, Now with RWD and Carledo powertrain!

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Re: SprintV8 going 13B Rotary

#21 Post by SprintV8 »

Steve.

I’ve go no idea where the speedo come from.
I can only assume it’s always been in the Sprint but I’ve never noticed.

My goal is to get to the 170 mark LOL.
2021 Triumph Tiger 850 Sport.
2009 Mini Clubman Cooper S Daily Driver.
1980 Dolomite Sprint with a touch of BLTS
Balanced Lightened and Tweaked 13B Rotary and SuperCharged.
Back in my possession 22 September 2019.
Rebuilding the Sprint time taken so far, 111Hrs@15/12/2020
212Hrs @31/12/2021
352 @ 28/11/2022
455Hrs @ 20/10/2023
530. @ 09/07/2024
This is time taken at the Sprint not necessary time worked.

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Project 13B Sprint now back on..
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Re: SprintV8 going 13B Rotary

#22 Post by Carledo »

Here you go mate, pic is from Merlin Motorsport pages.


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Steve
'73 2 door Toledo with Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 8v engine (The Carledo)
'78 Sprint Auto with Vauxhall Omega 2.2 16v engine (The Dolomega)
'72 Triumph 1500FWD in Slate Grey, Now with RWD and Carledo powertrain!

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#23 Post by SprintV8 »

This should get me to the 170 easy enough.

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2021 Triumph Tiger 850 Sport.
2009 Mini Clubman Cooper S Daily Driver.
1980 Dolomite Sprint with a touch of BLTS
Balanced Lightened and Tweaked 13B Rotary and SuperCharged.
Back in my possession 22 September 2019.
Rebuilding the Sprint time taken so far, 111Hrs@15/12/2020
212Hrs @31/12/2021
352 @ 28/11/2022
455Hrs @ 20/10/2023
530. @ 09/07/2024
This is time taken at the Sprint not necessary time worked.

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Project 13B Sprint now back on..
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Re: SprintV8 going 13B Rotary

#24 Post by Mad Mart »

Is that BHP or MPH Phill? :woohoo:
Sprintless for the first time in 35+ years. :boggle2: ... Still Sprintless.

Engines, Gearboxes, Overdrives etc. rebuilt. PM me.


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Re: SprintV8 going 13B Rotary

#25 Post by SprintV8 »

If that was a genuine 3 Rotor engine we are talking 170mph+
Seriously more power than a TVR AJPV8. 😏

Sad picked up yet another RX8 engine for parts/mocking up.
Just put some of the housings and plates together.

20B three rotor would be a major upgrade and ££££££s

https://youtu.be/jOclop23uBw
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2021 Triumph Tiger 850 Sport.
2009 Mini Clubman Cooper S Daily Driver.
1980 Dolomite Sprint with a touch of BLTS
Balanced Lightened and Tweaked 13B Rotary and SuperCharged.
Back in my possession 22 September 2019.
Rebuilding the Sprint time taken so far, 111Hrs@15/12/2020
212Hrs @31/12/2021
352 @ 28/11/2022
455Hrs @ 20/10/2023
530. @ 09/07/2024
This is time taken at the Sprint not necessary time worked.

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Project 13B Sprint now back on..
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Re: SprintV8 going 13B Rotary

#26 Post by new to this »

[color=#0000FF What fuel tank are you going to use ?

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#27 Post by SprintV8 »

Having a new alloy tank made up.
Capacity will be the same as the Sprint or more.
Surge pot built in as well as baffled.
Original fuel cap and part filler tube.
Will sit in between rear wheel arches.
Similar to the works Escort style.

Just knocking up a CAD (Cardboard added design) one to check fitting.
Still trying to find a suitable in tank fuel pump and filter.
Or will be a inline pump and filter.
2021 Triumph Tiger 850 Sport.
2009 Mini Clubman Cooper S Daily Driver.
1980 Dolomite Sprint with a touch of BLTS
Balanced Lightened and Tweaked 13B Rotary and SuperCharged.
Back in my possession 22 September 2019.
Rebuilding the Sprint time taken so far, 111Hrs@15/12/2020
212Hrs @31/12/2021
352 @ 28/11/2022
455Hrs @ 20/10/2023
530. @ 09/07/2024
This is time taken at the Sprint not necessary time worked.

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Project 13B Sprint now back on..
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Re: SprintV8 going 13B Rotary

#28 Post by new to this »

SprintV8 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:05 am Having a new alloy tank made up.
Capacity will be the same as the Sprint or more.
Surge pot built in as well as baffled.
Original fuel cap and part filler tube.
Will sit in between rear wheel arches.
Similar to the works Escort style.

Just knocking up a CAD (Cardboard added design) one to check fitting.
Still trying to find a suitable in tank fuel pump and filter.
Or will be a inline pump and filter.
Ive ordered a fuel pump from classic Range Rover going to fit it inside the dolomite tank

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#29 Post by SprintV8 »

Are you going to baffle around the pump.
To prevent lost of fuel when cornering etc.

Hence why I having a surge pot built into the new tank.

I don’t think there’s anything on the RR pump to prevent this ?

I’m sure someone here used a pump assy from a MX5.
2021 Triumph Tiger 850 Sport.
2009 Mini Clubman Cooper S Daily Driver.
1980 Dolomite Sprint with a touch of BLTS
Balanced Lightened and Tweaked 13B Rotary and SuperCharged.
Back in my possession 22 September 2019.
Rebuilding the Sprint time taken so far, 111Hrs@15/12/2020
212Hrs @31/12/2021
352 @ 28/11/2022
455Hrs @ 20/10/2023
530. @ 09/07/2024
This is time taken at the Sprint not necessary time worked.

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Re: SprintV8 going 13B Rotary

#30 Post by new to this »

SprintV8 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:49 pm Are you going to baffle around the pump.
To prevent lost of fuel when cornering etc.

Hence why I having a surge pot built into the new tank.

I don’t think there’s anything on the RR pump to prevent this ?

I’m sure someone here used a pump assy from a MX5.
Phil

Ive got a 4inch diam pipe im fitting inside the tank, and the pump will sit inside the pipe,it will act a bit like a baffle for the pump

Dave
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