1850 clutch with Sprint o/d box.

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1850 clutch with Sprint o/d box.

#1 Post by dollyman »

Hi folks,

I have a pal who has a Dolly 1850 fitted with a Sprint o/d gearbox. Question is, will the box come out doing it from inside the car?
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Does it have the adapter plate fitted? If it does, you can undo everything around the bell housing from inside the car, but the 'box has to come out from below and you'll need to drop the rear subframe mounts too.

I doubt having the adapter plate omitted would give sufficient extra room (and the gear lever would be in the wrong place anyway, so I expect it has been fitted with the 'box)
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Hi Alun,
It does have the adapter plate fitted and it hasn't got the sprint subframe and yes the gear lever is at the wrong angle. Would it be quicker/easier to take the engine out? The problem is it has to be done in a day :bash:

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#4 Post by xvivalve »

It's certainly less frustrating trying to align the splines on a Sprint 'box when the engine is also out of the car; it depends to some extent what facilities you have...with a ramp I'd leave the engine in, without a ramp I'd whip the pair out together.
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dollyman wrote: Hi Alun,
It does have the adapter plate fitted and it hasn't got the sprint subframe and yes the gear lever is at the wrong angle. Would it be quicker/easier to take the engine out? The problem is it has to be done in a day :bash:

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Yes it can be done. Easier with the tunnel out but that can already be a pre preperation and can be fitted later again when there's only one day on a ramp available. But be prepared of things go wrong like manifold studs etc. You are aware a 1850 clutch doesnt fit then?

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Thanks Alun and Jeroen,

The tunnel and all other bits apart from drivers seat would be out already. No ramp, but run up ramps good jack and good stands and a flat dry area. He does know the clutch is a sprint one and not 1850 Jeroen :thumbsup: So it looks like it will be done on the floor with engine left in, and fingers crossed :lol: I'm glad my Triumphs are automatic's 8) Thanks both for your help, if there is anything else you think of, let me know.

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dollyman wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 5:05 pm Thanks Alun and Jeroen,

The tunnel and all other bits apart from drivers seat would be out already. No ramp, but run up ramps good jack and good stands and a flat dry area. He does know the clutch is a sprint one and not 1850 Jeroen :thumbsup: So it looks like it will be done on the floor with engine left in, and fingers crossed :lol: I'm glad my Triumphs are automatic's 8) Thanks both for your help, if there is anything else you think of, let me know.

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Rather you than me dude, that box is HEAVY! I did one just once lying on my back on the garage floor, when I was in my 20s and relatively strong. I'll never do another like that!

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I took my Sprint gearbox out and left the engine in place, make sure you remove the tunnel, i didn't and it was a pain getting it out

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Carledo wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 6:59 pm
dollyman wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 5:05 pm Thanks Alun and Jeroen,

The tunnel and all other bits apart from drivers seat would be out already. No ramp, but run up ramps good jack and good stands and a flat dry area. He does know the clutch is a sprint one and not 1850 Jeroen :thumbsup: So it looks like it will be done on the floor with engine left in, and fingers crossed :lol: I'm glad my Triumphs are automatic's 8) Thanks both for your help, if there is anything else you think of, let me know.

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#10 Post by dollyman »

I'm just glad it's not me that will be touching it :shock: I am just providing the space and equipment thank god. I think it might be engine out.
Anyone fancy a job :lol: :lol:

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dollyman wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 10:35 am I'm just glad it's not me that will be touching it :shock: I am just providing the space and equipment thank god. I think it might be engine out.
Anyone fancy a job :lol: :lol:

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I've got enough work for 3 men on at the moment! But I have a crane and a load leveller if you want to borrow it!

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#12 Post by dollyman »

Thats a very kind offer offer Steve, but i have both myself. Sadly i need a new body as mine has seen better days :( Hence why i can only oversee the job. I have also never done a Dolomite clutch in my life :oops:

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