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Remedial coil question...

#1 Post by shaunroche »

So, I have an early '73/L Reg sprint and I'm quite sure it has the pink/white ballast wire but no physical resistor block as such.

As everything electrical will be new, I have no coil fitted - from the myriad coils on the market, could someone advise which one I should be buying and from where please?

On the track Sprint I have a flame thrower coil which I use with the Pertronix electronic ignition, but I think this might be a bit wild for a standard Sprint set up which I initially intend on using with points?

Thinking on, I do have a relatively new red Accuspark coil...might that be suitable?
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I'd advise you to look up the specs on the Accuspark red coil before using it. I could be wrong, but I have a hunch they are meant to run on a straight 12v without ballast resistor. Which wouldn't suit your built in ballast car unless you provided an alternate 12v feed from the fusebox and ignore the ballast lead.

Points will work ballasted or unballasted, so long as the appropriate coil is used for the resistance supplied. A lot of the cheaper EI systems are more picky about coils and ballast fitment.

Believe it or not, i've bought a couple of standard Sprint coils in the last couple of years from my local factors (Bennets, they have quite a few branches) just your average ballasted coil and they've worked and kept working. Playing with (miss)fire I know, but it's paid off so far :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I fitted this from the Green Spark Plug Company.
Very pleased so far and made in England!

https://www.gsparkplug.com/remax-es6b-i ... lucas.html

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Damson6 wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:29 pm I fitted this from the Green Spark Plug Company.
Very pleased so far and made in England!

https://www.gsparkplug.com/remax-es6b-i ... lucas.html

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Cheers Derek - I see they're in Middlewich, through where I drive home after work so that's a done deal then, Cheers!
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Carledo wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 7:32 pm I'd advise you to look up the specs on the Accuspark red coil before using it. I could be wrong, but I have a hunch they are meant to run on a straight 12v without ballast resistor. Which wouldn't suit your built in ballast car unless you provided an alternate 12v feed from the fusebox and ignore the ballast lead.

Points will work ballasted or unballasted, so long as the appropriate coil is used for the resistance supplied. A lot of the cheaper EI systems are more picky about coils and ballast fitment.

Believe it or not, i've bought a couple of standard Sprint coils in the last couple of years from my local factors (Bennets, they have quite a few branches) just your average ballasted coil and they've worked and kept working. Playing with (miss)fire I know, but it's paid off so far :lol: :lol: :lol:

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The red coil came off the Track Sprint so I think it worked OK - I'll not try it though just in case!
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shaunroche wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 1:24 pm
Damson6 wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:29 pm I fitted this from the Green Spark Plug Company.
Very pleased so far and made in England!

https://www.gsparkplug.com/remax-es6b-i ... lucas.html

Derek
Cheers Derek - I see they're in Middlewich, through where I drive home after work so that's a done deal then, Cheers!
Shouldn't be difficult to bypass the Ballast wire with a normal wire though. That's what I have done.
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shaunroche wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 1:24 pm
Damson6 wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:29 pm I fitted this from the Green Spark Plug Company.
Very pleased so far and made in England!

https://www.gsparkplug.com/remax-es6b-i ... lucas.html

Derek
Cheers Derek - I see they're in Middlewich, through where I drive home after work so that's a done deal then, Cheers!
Job done, procured and fitted.

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Damson6 wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 8:17 pm
shaunroche wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 1:24 pm
Damson6 wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:29 pm I fitted this from the Green Spark Plug Company.
Very pleased so far and made in England!

https://www.gsparkplug.com/remax-es6b-i ... lucas.html

Derek
Cheers Derek - I see they're in Middlewich, through where I drive home after work so that's a done deal then, Cheers!
Shouldn't be difficult to bypass the Ballast wire with a normal wire though. That's what I have done.
Why do I need to add a wire? Being a standard OEM type coil it's plug and play, yes?
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shaunroche wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 10:50 am
Damson6 wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 8:17 pm
shaunroche wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 1:24 pm

Cheers Derek - I see they're in Middlewich, through where I drive home after work so that's a done deal then, Cheers!
Shouldn't be difficult to bypass the Ballast wire with a normal wire though. That's what I have done.
Why do I need to add a wire? Being a standard OEM type coil it's plug and play, yes?
Yes, Standard OEM ballasted coil is plug and play. You only need to add a 12v feed if using a 12v unballasted coil.

Steve
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Carledo wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 6:35 pm Why do I need to add a wire? Being a standard OEM type coil it's plug and play, yes?

Yes, Standard OEM ballasted coil is plug and play. You only need to add a 12v feed if using a 12v unballasted coil.

Steve
So the coil I have bought is 12v and is ballested, so it is fit for purpose isn't it?

PS - in the new loom there's a pink wire - I was expecting to see a pink and white one....I take it this goes to the +ve side of the coil along with the yellow and white, the white/slate and the wire from the dizzy goes to -ve, yes?
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shaunroche wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:43 am
So the coil I have bought is 12v and is ballasted, so it is fit for purpose isn't it?

PS - in the new loom there's a pink wire - I was expecting to see a pink and white one....I take it this goes to the +ve side of the coil along with the yellow and white, the white/slate and the wire from the dizzy goes to -ve, yes?
Original ballast lead colour was pink/white but they may have changed it on an aftermarket loom

On the original looms the pink/white and yellow/white wires were joined inside the loom, sometimes pink shows at the terminal, more often yellow/white, but there's only one live terminal on a stock loom. If you have both pink and yellow/white on separate spade terminals, it's no problem, both go to coil +ve. The white/slate lead is rev counter sensing and goes to coil -ve, along with the (usually) black lead to the points in the dizzy.

And yes, the coil you've bought is correct.

HTH, Steve
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Carledo wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 1:33 pm
Original ballast lead colour was pink/white but they may have changed it on an aftermarket loom

On the original looms the pink/white and yellow/white wires were joined inside the loom, sometimes pink shows at the terminal, more often yellow/white, but there's only one live terminal on a stock loom. If you have both pink and yellow/white on separate spade terminals, it's no problem, both go to coil +ve. The white/slate lead is rev counter sensing and goes to coil -ve, along with the (usually) black lead to the points in the dizzy.

And yes, the coil you've bought is correct.

HTH, Steve
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