Exhaust Support Bracket For 1850

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Exhaust Support Bracket For 1850

#1 Post by David Embery »

Hi,

Wondered if anyone can help me track down an exhaust bracket I need for my 1972 Dolomite 1850? I have a 3 rail gearbox with overdrive.

The exhaust bracket Part No Is 159676, as per my July 1973 Parts Catalogue. However, we think this number changed in later years/editions to GEX7498

The page from my 1973 catalogue is below and shows where the bracket should be. Looks like it should be ‘L’ shaped in order for the exhaust clamp bolt to thread through that is located where the down pipe from the manifold joins the exhaust system.

Does anyone have this bracket 159676/GEX7498 or know of where I can get one? Even if it is just to borrow so that copies can be made.

Hope someone can help.

Cheers

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#2 Post by Macleesh »

As per my comment on FB there's a bracket matching that description in the club spares list for £18, do they differ by year or is there no stock?

I can get you pictures of mine if that helps, its attached to my gearbox currently resting under my bench.

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1977 1850 HL manual O/D
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#3 Post by David Embery »

Hi Sean,

I spoke with both Alun Nicholas from TDC and Steve Boitoult from Shropshire group yesterday and between them they advised that the club’s spares position for this bracket was one of being out of stock with no ‘Pattern’ available to enable a re-manufacture as matters stand. The bracket is pretty much an 1850 only part because the Sprint has a different gearbox and so a slightly different front exhaust set up to the 1850. Therefore, the bracket is known by suppliers and TDC as a ‘low demand/slow mover’, which doesn’t therefore give itself readily to cost effective regular bulk re-manufacture.

If we can have as many pictures as possible of your bracket that would be a fabulous start. :D Even better would be if Alun & myself could maybe even borrow your bracket and thereby allow us take lots of precise measurements to enable a precise re-manufacture ‘Pattern’ of the part to be made for both my own personal need now and that of the Club’s future reference for future member restorations of the 1850.

If you could help, I would be forever in your debt. I am trying to restore my May 1972 1850 with as close to original Dolomite stuff as possible to that stated within the July 73 parts catalogue. I’m getting nearer and nearer to accomplishing my aim and don’t want to fall down at this late stage purely down to an exhaust bracket. To some, I’m ‘Bonkers’ for sure. However, I’ve really enjoyed the last few months sourcing all sorts of parts. Matter of personal pride now. :lol:

Hope you can help.

Cheers

David
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#4 Post by xvivalve »

I do have a OE pattern for the 1850 bracket as discussed David, but it's not the one you need, it's the one you have and it is the one that was priced at £18 on the Club list.

I will re-stock when someone asks for one due to them being a slow moving item.
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#5 Post by David Embery »

That is understood and appreciated in terms of the bracket I already have Alun :D

Just need to get the bracket I don’t have from somewhere as it maybe quite a while before someone else comes forward asking for a 159676 again.

Just for clarity, the bracket i do have us 159674 and shown below. It’s the smaller 159676 that I need.

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#6 Post by Macleesh »

More than happy to lend mine if that helps.

I'm due a workshop day tomorrow so will remove it and photograph it.

It's worth mentioning that I know mine has had work as it broke when the car was still on the road and I had to do a welded repair. How good that repair was will become apparent soon!

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#7 Post by David Embery »

That is fantastic Sean. Very many thanks. :D

I’m sure we can use your bracket in conjunction with the one I already have to then create a great ‘Pattern’ for both my current use and that of any future need for TDC members.

Look forward to hearing from you. Cheers :D

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#8 Post by xvivalve »

Sorry David, my mistake, I read Sean's bracket was the club £18 one :roll:
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#9 Post by David Embery »

No worries Alun. :D
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#10 Post by Macleesh »

Pictures of the bracket as fitted to my car :-
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You can see the repair to the areas near the mounting holes where it previously fractured, you can also see its fractured on the bend too.

If you need me to post it to take measurements from I'm happy to do that as long as I get it back.

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#11 Post by David Embery »

Hi Sean

Thank you for taking the time you have. Much appreciated. :D

The bracket you have taken photo of is part no.159674. I have that as a NOS part. The bracket I need to look at is 159676 and that attaches to the bracket 159674 you have shown in your pictures via the stud thread.

The picture below is of my 1973 Parts Manual and shows 159676 sitting on the thread of 159674.
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As you have taken your 159674 out, could you put a few pictures up of your 159676 bracket?

Many thanks Sean. 😀
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#12 Post by David Embery »

If it is helpful Sean, this link will take you to the eBay shop for TD Fitchett, Telford, Shropshire.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115620907465 ... SwDWFjhc0e

Just thought a new 159674 bracket might appeal? 🙂

Cheers

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#13 Post by Macleesh »

OK, got that bit but took it off for the pics.

It's just a bit of metal folded, nothing fancy, will get you a picture tomorrow.

There is one caveat, my car had a none standard Stainless Steel exhaust on when I got it so this may have resulted in some alterations to the mounting arrangements.

Thanks gor the link to the NOS item, it's amazing what's still out there!

Sean
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#14 Post by David Embery »

You’re welcome Sean. :D

Look forward to seeing your photo tomorrow.

Cheers

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#15 Post by Macleesh »

Sorry for the delay, forgot I was at a Funeral!

Pictures as promised
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Close inspection of the bracket suggests it may not be the original as its rather crudely made, it does however look like it's plated so maybe it is. It does not have the prong which appears to be designed to engage with the exhaust clamp and there's no evidence that it was ever there.

I've taken a picture from my parts catalogue which shows the arrangement from a different perspective to the one above which may be helpful.
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Unless you're aiming for a concours restoration I suspect a bit of bent drilled steel will get the job done for you

Sean
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