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Re: Operation Orange - 1980 Sprint restoration

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:54 pm
by SprintMWU773V
The headlamp rims are plating/passivation. It's called Trivalent Chrome III Thick Film Zinc plating, it is very shiny to start with but over time it will dull. It's the same price as regular zinc but much more durable and better for the environment.

Re: Operation Orange - 1980 Sprint restoration

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:30 pm
by Flyfisherman
SprintMWU773V wrote:About 6 weeks ago I dropped off some chrome to be re-plated at Derby Plating. I picked it up late last week and finally got to unwrap it.
Very nice and a nice price you paid for them, did you take out a second morgage - I phone them the other week regarding chroming and there was no way I was going to pay the amount they quoted me.

Regards
paul

Re: Operation Orange - 1980 Sprint restoration

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:58 pm
by SprintMWU773V
Derby are probably one of the best chromers left in the UK but they are extremely expensive. I got a good deal because i tied my 4 pieces in with a very large order through the chap that painted my shell which brought the price down significantly to a more bearable level, knocking around 1/3rd off.

Re: Operation Orange - 1980 Sprint restoration

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:48 am
by Sunbmw
SprintMWU773V wrote:Derby are probably one of the best chromers left in the UK but they are extremely expensive. I got a good deal because i tied my 4 pieces in with a very large order through the chap that painted my shell which brought the price down significantly to a more bearable level, knocking around 1/3rd off.
Hi Mark, if you don't mind me asking, how much did the Chroming cost? I need to get my bumpers and a few other bits and bobs done, I have used Derby platers a long time ago so can't really remember what costa are involved. I also used a company in Nottingham a few years ago called Bradbury's for some chroming and some "Zinc and Yellow" ing and they seemed extremely reasonable at the time. I am only in Ashbourne, you can't be that far away, are you? Take care, Lee.

Re: Operation Orange - 1980 Sprint restoration

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:26 pm
by Goose
Thats going to be one heck of a car when its done mark. Keep up the good work, i'm watching with interest....

My.........

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:49 pm
by sprint95m
Has it really been over three months since an update?

Just a note to say well done Mark,
your article in Dolly Mixture detailing the wiring loom construction was really good :D .




Ian.

Re: Operation Orange - 1980 Sprint restoration

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:11 pm
by SprintMWU773V
I know it's amazing. I have a BIG update coming up very soon just as soon as I finish writing it and adding all the links for the pictures. All being well should be up by the end of the week!

Re: Operation Orange - 1980 Sprint restoration

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:08 pm
by Carledo
I love this car and this resto (its much more than a resto but I can't adequately describe what it is, re-creation perhaps?) despite my own proclivities for modding!
I just hope that when this epic task is completed (and i'm sure Hercules didn't work harder) that you'll be able to bring yourself to DRIVE it!

Steve

Re: Operation Orange - 1980 Sprint restoration

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:36 pm
by SprintMWU773V
It has been quite a while since my last update, in fact it was March!

Things have been very busy over the last few months: purchase and renovation of a property, completing a large dissertation for a masters, uncertainly over job security, weddings and other family and friend commitments all taking priority over my restoration. Despite all this I have continued to make reasonable progress though and the car is definitely starting to look more like a car.

Hopefully you’re sitting down so I will begin.

I was for a while thinking about re-manufacturing some outer headlamp seal mounting rings made up but luckily I managed to find 3 new ones and was able to re-use my only decent used one. I had them all re-plated before fixing them into place using the seals I had made up and also some plastic expansion rivets.

I’d previously had all the NOS headlamp mounting rings and bowls powder coated. Fixing these onto the front panel required some patience and ingenuity. They should of course be riveted. Actually getting a rivet gun in there is quite difficult so I instead opted for some stainless machine screws and nyloc nuts on the inner ones and use of a U clip and self-tapping screws on the outers. Though not original it’s actually a good solution, the outers on my donor car were held in using this technique and it makes them easy to remove and clean if required in the future.

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Headlights have also been mounted. I was determined to keep the car original right up to the point when I realised that sealed beams are so hard to find, particularly 3 pin ones. A visit to Bealieu auto jumble and a good look around made me decide to swap for halogens. I found two types, Autopal and Valeo/Cibie. I opted for the Valeo ones in the end as they had a better curve to the front and seemed to be manufactured to a much higher quality. I’m pleased with the look which does look very original and will help future proof the car to a degree. I had the new wiring loom modified by adding relays to the headlamps so the move to halogen was a sensible one really.

With the headlamps fitted I also fitted the grille panels. These I fixed on with black plastic number plate screws and nuts. Not entirely easy to reach when the radiator gets fixed in but actually quite possible if you’ve got small fingers like me! To complete the look I trial fitted some old headlamp bezels I had lying around, they make it look more like a car though they are quite mis-shapen so I’ll have to look out for some better ones to use permanently.

You’ll probably recall I had my chrome sent off to be re-plated. This took quite a long time and after some time in the ‘holding area’ (the living room) these are now on the car. Both front and rear mounting brackets have been powder coated, the spacers re-plated and new bumper bolts, nuts etc fitted. Actually fitting the bumpers proved to be quite a long process, particularly the rear one. The front one was delayed for a while as I had originally sourced two of the same handed mounting bracket. It took me a little while to source the correct one but thankfully Mick Dolphin had one and it arrived pretty quickly. I had it powder coated to match the other one, again causing a delay as it’s not really worth be getting just one item done so I saved it up to go with some other parts. I’m happy with the fit though and the finish is superb. I have not yet fitted the under riders as these required re-chroming and are currently off being worked on.

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The winter weather seemed to last for ages and the low temperatures really hampered by efforts to use some contact adhesive to fix the bulkhead pad into the car. Basically the glue does not work especially well at low temperatures as the solvent cannot evaporate sufficiently. I had of course had a remanufactured pad made up but the interim winter period saw me source a new old stock original one. I paid a handsome amount for it but I thought it worth it to keep it original as much as I can.

Fitting the pad proved to be rather a nervous moment. They are quite heavy and awkward to handle even with the help of an assistant. I resorted to climbing into the engine bay in an attempt to get it lining up as best as I could. The result is satisfactory, not perfect but not really any worse than factory original. It’s a job I really don’t want to have to do again if I can help it. The glue was very sticky and really once stuck does not like to come off again.

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Fitting the pad has allowed me to sort out a few other jobs. I’ve fitting the forward section of the wiring loom, fixing to the turret/chassis leg bit was OK as I had some replacement plastic clips but I have not yet found a satisfactory clip for the front valance. I thought I had found some but they are a little too small. In the meantime it’s held in with some tie wraps to secure it roughly in the right position and I can secure it properly when I find the right clips. This will allow me to fix the rest of the pieces together and commence testing of the loom to see if it works as it should.

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Inside the car I’ve used original metal clips sourced second hand and laid fixed this into place ready to work out what wire does what! As you can see the accelerator pedal and clutch pedal have been refitted. Both of these have been blasted and powder coated, a new rubber has been fitted to the brake pedal, the accelerator one is a good used one. The clutch pedal was most troublesome having hit me in the head during rubber removal resulting in a trip to hospital. At least now it is mounted it can't hurt me! The brake pedal has been removed from the donor and is currently at the powder coaters. Heater box has been installed, this is actually a new one picked up from a Rimmers sale a few years ago, they want crazy money for them now.

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You can't see in the pics but in the doors have had the strengtheners fitted and they also have the window regulators fitted too, albeit loosely as they may need to come out to fit the glass.

Amidst all this I had a call from Chapman and Cliffe to let me know that my wood set was ready to be picked up which I had left them back in March. It’s not far to go so I went over to pick it up. I gave each piece a look over before we wrapped them all up again. I’m afraid that I have not un-wrapped them since so you’ll have to wait and see what they look like. Each piece was re-veneered with American Walnut and then re-lacquered to leave a satin finish. I am extremely pleased with the results. The pieces will stay stored for a little while before I build up the dashboard. I’ll probably have to store the dash for a while as it makes sense to fit the windscreen first and that means fitting the vinyl roof.

From the front of the car to the back! I’ve also fitted the fuel tank. The tank was a NOS Ebay bargain which I bought a few years ago for just £25. It was supplied c/w Austin Rover stickers and a thin coating of black paint. I decided that it needed smartening up so I took it to a place just next door to Chapman and Cliffe nr Crewe.

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They rubbed it down, primed it and then treated it to a coat of gloss two-pack paint. Though it won’t really be seen it does look nice and looks quite at home in the boot. The filler neck, breathers and sender have also been fitted. Fitting the tank removes another item from the living room and thus more wife points gained.

A few other jobs have also been undertaken to renovate items like heater blower motors, washer bottle brackets etc. The heater blower fan and and housing have been stripped down and have been painted in chassis black and are awaiting re-assembly. The washer bottle bracket was going to go on this week. I'd purchased a good used one a few years ago but on closer inspection I was not happy with the finish so as I had a few bits to take to the powder coaters I dismantled the bracket and it should be back next week.

Finally it’s worth remembering that I do have a donor car and a lot of parts have now been removed from it. All the front and rear door glass and internals have been removed and I am just about to commence fitting that which looks like a job for a day when I am feeling patient! The dashboard has also been removed and I will use the original carcass and instruments together with my new woodwork. The shell is looking quite sorry for itself now, more botched repairs and rust seems to be found every time I remove parts. It does make me feel the re-shell was the only viable way forward.

The next big job on the old shell will be to remove the running gear. So far this has remained in the car due to lack of storage space. I have recently ordered a shed which means I can now look at removing the engine, gearbox and axle ready for inspection and refurbishment.

Hopefully it won't be 3 months till the next update, enjoy!

Re: Operation Orange - 1980 Sprint restoration

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:30 pm
by soe8m
:shock: :D

Those cibie's have a lot of light for 5 3/4 units.

Jeroen

Re: Operation Orange - 1980 Sprint restoration

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:41 pm
by DoloWIGHTY
SprintMWU773V wrote: enjoy!
I did, I did! :mrgreen:
SprintMWU773V wrote:. A visit to Bealieu auto jumble and a good look around made me decide to swap for halogens.
Ummm...sorry I think I might be responsible here...

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Sorry I hoovered them all up at Beaulieu last September. :oops: ^^^ That's just my stock of three pin ones.

Looking forward to your next update already Mark :thumbsup:

Re: Operation Orange - 1980 Sprint restoration

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:16 pm
by mbellinger
Looking very nice indeed Mark. All credit to you for your perseverance. This will be very nice indeed.

Re: Operation Orange - 1980 Sprint restoration

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:31 pm
by Jon Tilson
Can you let me know the supplier of your halogen units? Alternativley the Valeo part number would be fine...

I need some 5 and 3/4 with the nice domed lens and no side lights that take H4 bulbs....
I need quite a few too....P6, 3 dollies and the Snag to do...

Jonners

Re: Operation Orange - 1980 Sprint restoration

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:23 pm
by grifterkid
This is looking very nice indeed sir...!!!

I know the term 'better than new' gets over-used these days but this Dolomite truly is better than new, infinitely better...

Stunning, just absolutely stunning :wink:

Re: Operation Orange - 1980 Sprint restoration

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:20 am
by SprintMWU773V
As I mentioned in my big update the process of parts removal from the donor car continues. I've been very concious not to just take everything off and put it in a box as things can get lost and of course it's easy to forget how things go together. Unless it's a really simple part I generally photograph parts then remove them. I've tended to remove things as and when I need them to refurbish. Whereas some others have been forced to strip everything off their shells for restoration I have been fortunate enough not to need to do that. My Dad followed a similar strategy when he reshelled his MG. The interior is looking pretty shabby now, the dash has been removed, the pedals, gearbox tunnel, carpets and all the door furniture. What's interesting is that the more you remove the worse the donor gets.

Last night I was having a good look at the wiring loom so help label the new one I have just put in and also to set about removing the windscreen wiper motor to clean up, test and fit to the new shell. I've mentioned before about some of the crusty bits but further poking has revelaed some really nasty rot in the bulkhead.

With the wiper motor removed you can clearly see daylight through a hole both to the wheel arch and also the inside of the car. This would be really nasty rust to try and repair. It looks much worse for real than in the picture.

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This is the view from the inside of the car, you can see a definate crack in the bulkhead too

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Of more concern was the hole around the steering column mount. Here a large hole was masked by 'structural' seam sealer. The hole goes into the inside of the chassis leg, you can see how dangerous this is and what a nasty repair this would be. Whilst the donor has now been stood outside for a couple of years under cover, this is not new rot. This has been developing for some time, brought about by much bodgery and general deterioration.

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Here's a closer look, you can see the tube where the subframe mounting bolt passes through the chassis leg.

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My plan over the next few weeks is to drain the water from the engine, remove the carbs, radiator etc ready to remove the engine and gearbox in about 6 weeks time. I plan to do this by dropping all the mounting bolts and then raising the front of the shell before sliding the engine and box out from underneath. I can then separate the engine and box ready to be stripped down for inspection and reconditioning.