NWL – Project Concours Carmine Sprint
- Toledo Man
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Re: NWL – Project Carmine Sprint
The flat part of the bushes needs to go against the washers. I rebushed the rear suspension on my Dolomite 1300 with the orange Polybushes and they never gave me a moment's bother since so I recommend them heartily. The only others I will recommend over Polybush are Super Flex. They cost more but it is money well spent.
The method I used to fit the inner tie bars was to fit them to the body first, fit everything as far as the first bush and offer the axle up. If you fit the other bush and the remaining washers, you can't get the nut started on the thread. To get round this, remove the washers and screw the nut on. This will compress the bushes enough to be able to get the nut started on the thread with the washers fitted. Do the nut up until you can get the R clip in the hole and the job is done!
The method I used to fit the inner tie bars was to fit them to the body first, fit everything as far as the first bush and offer the axle up. If you fit the other bush and the remaining washers, you can't get the nut started on the thread. To get round this, remove the washers and screw the nut on. This will compress the bushes enough to be able to get the nut started on the thread with the washers fitted. Do the nut up until you can get the R clip in the hole and the job is done!
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West Yorkshire Area Organiser
Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!
Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.
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Re: NWL – Project Carmine Sprint
That is wrong. The round part of the bush sits to the round part of the washer. It's fitted this way a sort of sliding part when the suspension moves. The round bush face can twist/turn/slide over the round face of the washer.
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Re: NWL – Project Carmine Sprint
For the sake of argument they have gone on as described in the the manual (1980 edition) as follows:
Dished washer (Dished bit facing towards the body mount or bushed eye)
Rubber bush (Flat bit towards the axle mount)
Through the axle bracket
Nylon washer
Rubber Bush (Flat bit towards the axle mount & nylon washer)
Dished washer (Dished bit facing away from the bush or towards the back of the car)
Large plain washer
Nut
Pin

Dished washer (Dished bit facing towards the body mount or bushed eye)
Rubber bush (Flat bit towards the axle mount)
Through the axle bracket
Nylon washer
Rubber Bush (Flat bit towards the axle mount & nylon washer)
Dished washer (Dished bit facing away from the bush or towards the back of the car)
Large plain washer
Nut
Pin

- Toledo Man
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Re: NWL – Project Carmine Sprint
Jeroen, you are indeed correct. It has been a long time since I did the rebushing job on my Dolomite 1300 (about 9 years ago!). I stand by everything else though having done a few axle swaps. I've not touched the 1850's rear suspension apart from replacing the rear spings and dampers so it has been a long time since I got intimate with the tie bars.
Sorry!
Sorry!

Toledo Man
West Yorkshire Area Organiser
Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!
Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.
"There is only one way to avoid criticsm: Do nothing, say nothing and BE nothing." Aristotle
West Yorkshire Area Organiser
Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!
Check my blog at http://triumphtoledo.blogspot.com
My YouTube Channel with a bit of Dolomite content.
"There is only one way to avoid criticsm: Do nothing, say nothing and BE nothing." Aristotle
Re: NWL – Project Carmine Sprint
I finally have an update! Not a lot has been happening for the past month or so due to various childcare commitments and the flu. I have stripped down the steering column for cleaning, that will be reassembled shortly. More importantly I collected these from down the road last night....

Cleaned and honed with new small ends

Rebored and ready for cleaning and painting, didn't need a face as it was nice and flat

Balanced and journals polished

Clutch and flywheel balanced

I need to pick up some Graphogen and I have a couple of things bike related to finish before I can get on with cleaning, painting and building up the bottom end.
The head should be ready to collect at the end of April.

Cleaned and honed with new small ends

Rebored and ready for cleaning and painting, didn't need a face as it was nice and flat

Balanced and journals polished

Clutch and flywheel balanced

I need to pick up some Graphogen and I have a couple of things bike related to finish before I can get on with cleaning, painting and building up the bottom end.
The head should be ready to collect at the end of April.
Re: NWL – Project Carmine Sprint
I have managed to get around to prepping the block ready for reassembly.
I chased out every thread then took it outside and gave it a good thorough going over with a wire brush on an angle grinder before dousing it in degreaser.





Gave it a good wash off with a pressure washer and dried everything with compressed air, lubricated the bores with honing oil then let it sit in the sun for a while.
Once it was thoroughly dry I mounted it in the engine stand and masked it up for paint.




Gave it about 10 coats of Halfords black engine paint from a rattle can.





I'm really pleased with the result.




I just need to replace the water pump bush and I'll give it another clean before starting reassembly.
I chased out every thread then took it outside and gave it a good thorough going over with a wire brush on an angle grinder before dousing it in degreaser.





Gave it a good wash off with a pressure washer and dried everything with compressed air, lubricated the bores with honing oil then let it sit in the sun for a while.
Once it was thoroughly dry I mounted it in the engine stand and masked it up for paint.




Gave it about 10 coats of Halfords black engine paint from a rattle can.





I'm really pleased with the result.




I just need to replace the water pump bush and I'll give it another clean before starting reassembly.
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Re: NWL – Project Carmine Sprint
Come and see some pretty shoddy, slow driving of a really well prepared competition Sprint here!
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Re: NWL – Project Carmine Sprint
Thanks Shaun, I wasn't referring to the brass cage though, I'm having trouble removing the bush.
Re: NWL – Project Carmine Sprint
Re the bush removal I have a set of expanding collets that attach to a slide hammer. I used it on mine and worked well. It wont be too tight once you get it moving. The grease method has worked over the years for me too. Thicker grease the better and a close fitting bar, dont be afraid to hit it. Keep repacking the grease to take up the slack.
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Top man Tony, I forgot about the blind bush extractors, two minutes later the bush came straight out!!
Unfortunately, sometimes even using the right equipment (hydraulic press) things don't go to plan.

Chipped a tooth on the shaft at the same time so I'll just have to replace the whole thing, looks like the impeller was a bit too far gone anyway.
Time for a beer I think!
Unfortunately, sometimes even using the right equipment (hydraulic press) things don't go to plan.

Chipped a tooth on the shaft at the same time so I'll just have to replace the whole thing, looks like the impeller was a bit too far gone anyway.
Time for a beer I think!
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Glad you sorted it
I broke my impeller too. I think heat gun is going to make it easier in the future.
Tony

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Thanks Tony!!
I decided to move away from the engine before I broke something else and deal with a more pressing issue. My garage roof is due to be replaced on the bank holiday weekend (when I say replaced, I mean new joists, deck and felt) and currently the Sprint is sitting on axle stands with no means of moving it. I wouldn't normally do this but I have re mounted the subframe and rear axle just so I can move the shell around. It also means that I can check that everything still fits and there are no glaringly obvious problems.
It's a bit dark at the moment so I'll post some pics of everything fitted tomorrow in the daylight.
Something interesting did happen when fitting the new front springs to the dampers, the springs were a bit twisted.

Once on the car they seemed to be fine so I am just putting it down to them just needing to settle and bed in.
I know some people have had problems with Rimmers springs fitting but mine fit inside the top cups fine, I have used the old isolating rubbers though as they were in excellent condition and the new ones aren't tapered.


You can see the difference between old and new



I decided to move away from the engine before I broke something else and deal with a more pressing issue. My garage roof is due to be replaced on the bank holiday weekend (when I say replaced, I mean new joists, deck and felt) and currently the Sprint is sitting on axle stands with no means of moving it. I wouldn't normally do this but I have re mounted the subframe and rear axle just so I can move the shell around. It also means that I can check that everything still fits and there are no glaringly obvious problems.
It's a bit dark at the moment so I'll post some pics of everything fitted tomorrow in the daylight.
Something interesting did happen when fitting the new front springs to the dampers, the springs were a bit twisted.

Once on the car they seemed to be fine so I am just putting it down to them just needing to settle and bed in.
I know some people have had problems with Rimmers springs fitting but mine fit inside the top cups fine, I have used the old isolating rubbers though as they were in excellent condition and the new ones aren't tapered.


You can see the difference between old and new

