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#16 Post by Reg »

The unit needs 12v,so the red(positive) wire needs to be extended to reach the fusebox,if you attach it to the coil it will not get enough power because of the in-line ballast resitor which cuts down the voltage to the coil..however,the negative(black) wire goes straight to the coil,and so dosn't need to be extended..i take it that your local specialist attached both wires to the coil then?...bit worrying if so,they should have known that already..
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#17 Post by tinganting »

ah i see... he was just following instructions.. he did mention the ballast on the loom.. so i will extend to the fuse box and all will be well... i do thankyou for your time in this
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#18 Post by Reg »

You will probably need to alter the timing to get it running sweet too...let us all know how you get on..
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#19 Post by tinganting »

ok... so i am now told thet my coil will give off a intial 12v jolt and then the ballast resistorv will kick in as it gets warm.. now that makes sense.. having fitted these to amny a stag etc i am told that mine is not working as there was no intial spark to fire the engine on.. so i then contact jigsaw.. nice chap by the way.. i am then told i can have a whole new distributor with al new electronics in ther but at a cost £190.00 i thinks i will wait and see what else i find out
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Some principals...

#20 Post by Jon Tilson »

The ballasted coil will typically run at 6 Volts. To achieve this there is an inlne resistance wire in the loom from switch to coil plus on all later dolomites. At starting this wire is bypassed by a lead from the starter solenoid so the coil gets the full battery voltage during cranking. This aslo goes to the coil plus terminal.

To drive the electronic ignition unit power you need a 12V non fused supply, which is available easilly from the non fused side of the fuse box.
The live side is the white/brown side and IIRC the ignition feed is the white wire.
You dont want the unit multiply fused really cos if you do, the wipers or an indicator short for exampl could take out your ignition. If you want it fused it should be on its own individual fuse.

Jonners
Note from Admin: sadly Jon passed away in February 2018 but his humour and wealth of knowledge will be fondly remembered by all. RIP Jonners.
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#21 Post by tinganting »

hi.. thanks for that.. that is what my mechanic said. but there was no intial spark from crank.. so it was getting the full 12v but no spark..... so the only answer is dead unit.. so all in all. i will forget it.. points are lovely ..can't live without them.. bring on the points.. and the point to all this is.. i have had enough.. just want a simple little ignition .. so uprated coil and leads will surfice for a little while..
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#22 Post by Reg »

You are very unlucky then..can't you change it for another and try that?
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#23 Post by tinganting »

i am normally very lucky.. but hey thats life.. i will return the unit and get money back.. as i am considering the whole distributor thing through jigsaw..
dollysteve

#24 Post by dollysteve »

sorry,should have said,mine were on an 1850, david6214 has them now still in one of the engines i gave him.
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#25 Post by xvivalve »

What about the JodSpark condensorless system; cheap and effective and preserves your points. Send him a PM, I think he has one on the shelf...
Mr.Speedy

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#26 Post by Mr.Speedy »

They are cheap, easy to fit and so far reliable.(Reaches for a large piece of wood)
tinganting

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#27 Post by tinganting »

hi .. i have now located pirhana ignition kits more are available through chris witor.. and what a nice man...
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#28 Post by VYO 372M »

I have just converted my Herald estate to run on a Aldon Electronic ignition and found it was very easy to install and has improved starting no end.
Best of all the complete unit sits inside the distributor and only has two wires showing where they connect to the coil, so look virtually standard.
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Sprint36

#29 Post by Sprint36 »

Reg bought one of those at the Triumph Spares Day. I like the way it fits inside the distributor.

Any feedback yet Reg?

David
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#30 Post by KWM338R »

I've tried a Pertronix(aldon) ignitor in my Sprint. I have had no luck with it. The first one died about 3 months after installing it. I did all the tests Pertronix faxed me and it pointed to a defunct module. I sent it back and they claimed it was OK, they sent me a new on anyway. I installed the new one and the car still wouldn't run right. I put the points back in and everything was dandy again. I have since rebuilt the Dizzy to take out the slop in the shaft so will try it again if I ever get the car back together :roll:

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Mark
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