I think your best bet is not to take off the complete wings, but just cut back to sound metal and then let in repair sections....
Just my 2 cents...
Jonners
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Jon Tilson
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Re: bought Terry the triumph
I once worked on Terry for the PO. I guess he may have got worse as its over a years since I saw him, but
I think your best bet is not to take off the complete wings, but just cut back to sound metal and then let in repair sections....
Just my 2 cents...
Jonners
I think your best bet is not to take off the complete wings, but just cut back to sound metal and then let in repair sections....
Just my 2 cents...
Jonners
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xvivalve
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Re: bought Terry the triumph
How do you let GRP into steel?
Don't worry, I wasn't defending against perceived criticism Steve, just explaining why, and also advertising that feedback is both useful and necessary, but can't always be used to improve the product. With my job, criticism is something I usually thrive upon!
Don't worry, I wasn't defending against perceived criticism Steve, just explaining why, and also advertising that feedback is both useful and necessary, but can't always be used to improve the product. With my job, criticism is something I usually thrive upon!
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Re: bought Terry the triumph
To be fair to the PO I have been riiping up carpets and sound insulation. Basically trying to find every piece rot on the car. My experience of rust is, if you don't catch it, it eats though your car with shocking speed.Jon Tilson wrote:I once worked on Terry for the PO. I guess he may have got worse as its over a years since I saw him, but
I think your best bet is not to take off the complete wings, but just cut back to sound metal and then let in repair sections....
Just my 2 cents...
Jonners
I did consider your plan, but there is no way to bond fibre glass to steel that I know of, without using a fixing like a rivet. Glue it on and it will fall off at some point. better to take the plunge and remove the whole wing. Will keep the steel sections, when i get a welder, i am going to use them to practice on, have a go at rebuilding the wing.
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Re: bought Terry the triumph
Everything is limited by fund. Ideally you would recommision all the tool for the orginal panels, but that would require millions. For the money, the panels I have don't look bad.xvivalve wrote:How do you let GRP into steel?
Don't worry, I wasn't defending against perceived criticism Steve, just explaining why, and also advertising that feedback is both useful and necessary, but can't always be used to improve the product. With my job, criticism is something I usually thrive upon!
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Re: bought Terry the triumph
It is possible to let fibreglass into steel. I presume you're using the stuff to bridge a hole. If you drill some holes around the big hole and the cover it all with fibreglass on both sides then it should get a decent hold.
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Meetings take place on the first Wednesday of the month at 8.00pm at The Railway, 1 Birstall Lane, Drighlington, Bradford, BD11 1JJ
2003 Volvo XC90 D5 SE (PX53 OVZ - The daily driver)
2009 Mercedes-Benz W204 C200 CDI Sport (BJ58 NCV - The 2nd car)
1991 Toyota Celica GT (J481 ONB - a project car)
Former stable of SAY 414M (1974 Toledo), GRH 244D (1966 1300fwd), CDB 324L (1973 1500fwd), GGN 573J (1971 1500fwd), DCP 625S (1977 Dolomite 1300) & LCG 367N (1975 Dolomite Sprint), NYE 751L (1972 Dolomite 1850 auto) plus 5 Acclaims and that's just the Triumphs!
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Re: bought Terry the triumph
I doubt it would hold, remember cars vibrate, they are exposed to the weather, this a serious test for any bonding method. I half thought about welding up the wings, but it would involve some very difficult metal work to get the shape right. Why bother when I have the fibre glass panels available?Toledo Man wrote:It is possible to let fibreglass into steel. I presume you're using the stuff to bridge a hole. If you drill some holes around the big hole and the cover it all with fibreglass on both sides then it should get a decent hold.
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Re: bought Terry the triumph
Too right mate! Just fit the GRP wings and stop worrying about wing rot - forever!cleverusername wrote:I doubt it would hold, remember cars vibrate, they are exposed to the weather, this a serious test for any bonding method. I half thought about welding up the wings, but it would involve some very difficult metal work to get the shape right. Why bother when I have the fibre glass panels available?Toledo Man wrote:It is possible to let fibreglass into steel. I presume you're using the stuff to bridge a hole. If you drill some holes around the big hole and the cover it all with fibreglass on both sides then it should get a decent hold.
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Re: bought Terry the triumph
The context of my question was regarding using part of a GRP panel to repair a metal one.How do you let GRP into steel?
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Purplebargeken
Re: bought Terry the triumph
The GRP panels are bloody fab, fit and forget, this is why I encouraged Lydia to get them in the first place. Shame she didn't get them fitted. The steel wings and front panels are not hard to get off, just take your time and remember, a steady hand and a good look at what is needed is a sure way to success. Sikkaflex and self tapping bolts are the way forward IMHO.