modern clutches

[Edin Dundee]

And don't even THINK about holding it on the clutch on a hill!

This is one thing that a DMF does make easier, but if you value your wallet, DON'T DO IT!

Steve

At least I'm not guilty of that, never have been.
I blew my top when I had to replace my '88 Accord's clutch at 118k and then found out my wife had been riding the clutch at junctions since it was new!

[alangraham]

Well my local garage has sourced the DMC parts for my Mitsubishi Colt at around £480 and asked me if I still want to go ahead as they heard I was thinking of selling the car - due to a pay off from work i'm now able to buy my first ever brand new car.
I told them to go ahead - for better or worse. It's an odd vehicle, it's mated with a 3 cylinder 1500cc Mercedes diesel unit which returns about 60 mpg which is why I've had 2 of them - it's powerful too. This one's done 112k. I don't get my pay out till March so after that somebody will get a decent & reliable car, cheap as chips.
As I can't go out and buy a new Dolly - seriously I would if it was possible- I'll continue to cherish the one I've got till either it's knackered or I am.
I'm thinking of buying a Hyundai i20 - the big bugbear is that I've read the engines are underpowered, but 13k is about in my budget, it'a 5 door hatchback, and everything else about them sounds good. I like a car that's quiet & refined for long motorway journeys.
Going back to other posts about sitting on the brakes and holding the clutch down, it really gets on my goat at this time of year at night when I get dazzled by brakelights. Sometimes I sit in queues of cars where everyone's dazzling each other, Grrr!

[Carledo]

Thats almost exactly the same price as I just paid for a clutch and DMF for a Ssangyong Kyron - which also has a Merc engine!

A NEW car? Well I suppose everybody is entitled to one! The closest I ever got was an ex demo car with 730 miles on the clock. A 1971 MkII Cortina 1600E in Aubergine, it's also the only car i've written off!

Steve

[SprintMWU773V]

I never thought I would have a new car and I'm now on my 2nd, though technically my first one was a pre-reg. My sister in law just bought a Kia after major issues with her 4 year old VW Sharon. It too was a pre-reg and was £14,500 for a Kia Carens, mid range with nearly the full 7 years of warranty left.

Kia's are the same as Hyundai's except those extra 2 years of warranty.

[Pippin]

Going back to other posts about sitting on the brakes and holding the clutch down, it really gets on my goat at this time of year at night when I get dazzled by brakelights. Sometimes I sit in queues of cars where everyone's dazzling each other, Grrr!

It used to get my goat too, and it still does a bit. However, have you considered that at least some of them may be driving automatics?

[tinweevil]

Does not in any way justify being too bone arse lazy to shift to neutral and put the hb on (for stops longer than a few seconds).

Many moons ago on the commute home form Bracknell to Horley I hit severe traffic on the M3. We inched along for a half hour, clearly a major incident ahead. Then just as the accident came in sight the wombles came past in the hard shoulder, much swearing ensued knowing what was about to happen. Sure enough moments later they shut the entire motorway despite the wreckage covering only the left 1.2 lanes and hard shoulder. One hour later the f##kweasel in the Range Rover Sport two cars ahead and one to my right still had it in drive with his foot on the brake.

[Mahesh]

The brake lights in traffic are annoying, especially as modern vehicles are using brighter and brighter leds.

Even though my bimmer is an auto, it has an auto handbrake, comes on when you come to a standstill and release on touching the accelerator.

It's a shame so many drivers these days do not use the rear view mirror enough.

[oily66]

If you want some advice on hyundai cars message robsun. Many of our meetings leave us agahst at their antics.

[Toledo Man]

And from what I can gather, it is the clutches that are the weak point on these cars.

[alangraham]

pm sent!

[RobSun]

Replied to your pm.

Clutches are a known week point in Hyundai's especially i10's and i20's. I've had two both brand new, both had clutch issues having to be replaced with a lot of hassle in one case and Hyundai saying they couldn't fix one as they had already replaced it with a redesigned clutch and it had the same problem and they had no answers.

Other problems were engine management issues and failures on both cars never fully fixed. Poor dealer service and very expensive service costs. Main service on the first was £330.00 in 2012 and £370.00 quoted in 2014. Done by an independent for £125.00 in the time allowed for the job of 2 hrs.

The second one was the most unreliable car I have ever owned including marinas etc in the 70s and 80s. So unreliable that I wouldn't use it for anything more than very local and in first year had done 1474 miles and I got rid of it at 4743 miles still breaking down.

DO NOT TOUCH AN i20 OR i10. Others I have spoken to have had the same issues especially clutches. Consider a second hand golf or polo for similar money. My daughter got a secondhand golf when I got the first i20. Still has it and has only had to service it fit discs and a cat. Total parts cost since June 2010 £600 plus two tyres.

[Toledo Man]

Bob, I've had an e-mail from Steve W. and he says that his Hyundai is still going fine. I'm fortunate that the Astra doesn't have a DMF (the MK4 was introduced in 1998 before the days of the DMF).

[oily66]

Hi Bob
Hope you didn't mind me "putting you forward" for comments.
Regards

[RobSun]

No problem at all Trevor.

[alangraham]

OK so having ditched the Hyundai I'm now looking at a new Polo. I had a VW Polo Mk1 from 1986 to 1990 and it was the most unreliable rusty car I ever owned. I guess things have changed.