Vice or Vise
Re: Vice or Vise
In my experience solicitors use ambiguous English, gives them an opportunity to write another
letter and charge you for the privilege.
letter and charge you for the privilege.
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On the motorway no one can hear me sing!
Construed as a public service, self preservation in reality.
On the motorway no one can hear me sing!
Construed as a public service, self preservation in reality.
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Plain English from the legal profession? De minimis non curat lex!
With some postings I get involved with on another site, they are so poorly written that I sometimes cannot help myself but enquire if a cat has just wandered across their keyboard. In saying that, I'm mildly dyslexic and just about managed to receive the lofty heights of a grade 5 Certificate of Secondary Education in English, one above ungraded, so I should perhaps keep quiet over spelling and grammar...

With some postings I get involved with on another site, they are so poorly written that I sometimes cannot help myself but enquire if a cat has just wandered across their keyboard. In saying that, I'm mildly dyslexic and just about managed to receive the lofty heights of a grade 5 Certificate of Secondary Education in English, one above ungraded, so I should perhaps keep quiet over spelling and grammar...
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Past fleet: Triumph 2000, Lancia Beta Coupe, BL Mini Clubman, Austin Metro, Vauxhall Cavalier MK1 & MK2, Renault 18 D, Rover 216 GSI, Honda Accord (most expensive car purchase, hated, made out of magnetic metal as only car I've ever been crashed into...4 times), BMW 318, Golf GTi MK3 16v x 3
Past fleet: Triumph 2000, Lancia Beta Coupe, BL Mini Clubman, Austin Metro, Vauxhall Cavalier MK1 & MK2, Renault 18 D, Rover 216 GSI, Honda Accord (most expensive car purchase, hated, made out of magnetic metal as only car I've ever been crashed into...4 times), BMW 318, Golf GTi MK3 16v x 3
Re: Vice or Vise
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Steve non conosce il suo carburatore dal suo distributore!


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James467 wrote:Steve non conosce il suo carburatore dal suo distributore!
Yes I do!
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Re: Vice or Vise
When setting up my Firefox browser, I made "English (UK)" the default language and when I switched over to Windows10, I did the same there. There's an option for "English (Aust'n)" in each.
I chose the UK settings because when I was educated (in the 50's) I was taught REAL English not the "Strine" we have now.
This indicates that Australia is branching off in a different direction of its own, similarly to the Yanks, although, much slower.
A leftist Prime Minister we had back in the '70's, even sent out a directive to all government departments ordering them to change how they spelled some words. One being "Programme"....it was to become "Program"....and it still is, but not in MY language.
I guess I'm just a rebellious Ozzie Anglophile.
Ya gotta laff.
Cheers,
Rob
I chose the UK settings because when I was educated (in the 50's) I was taught REAL English not the "Strine" we have now.
This indicates that Australia is branching off in a different direction of its own, similarly to the Yanks, although, much slower.
A leftist Prime Minister we had back in the '70's, even sent out a directive to all government departments ordering them to change how they spelled some words. One being "Programme"....it was to become "Program"....and it still is, but not in MY language.
I guess I'm just a rebellious Ozzie Anglophile.
Ya gotta laff.
Cheers,
Rob
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Re: Vice or Vise
How about "from the get go"???? What is wrong with "from now" or "from the start".
Another favourite hate Americanism is in a restaurant when you hear the man ask "Can I get this?" as he points to the menu. The obvious answer would be "No need sir, I will bring it to you if you wish".
Finally, though I am totally aware that my grammar is not good, however, I just cannot understand where the phrase "I brought this" when talking about buying something they bought. I genuinely have replied to this comment with, "Oh so you brought it home after you bought it did you?"
Another favourite hate Americanism is in a restaurant when you hear the man ask "Can I get this?" as he points to the menu. The obvious answer would be "No need sir, I will bring it to you if you wish".
Finally, though I am totally aware that my grammar is not good, however, I just cannot understand where the phrase "I brought this" when talking about buying something they bought. I genuinely have replied to this comment with, "Oh so you brought it home after you bought it did you?"
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Re: Vice or Vise
The one that is getting on my nerves at the moment (NOT grinding my gears - though that does have a nice ring to it!) is the quote from american cop shows "Are we done here?"
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My candidate for most annoying Americanism adopted by the Brits would be "going forward." What's wrong with "from now on"?
Regards.
Regards.
Okay.......
English is changing and has always done, hence the additions made annually to Dictionaries.
A few years ago Melvyn Bragg made and presented a TV series on this interesting subject.
Americanism is an example of this
The first American dictionaries were produced by Noah Webster 200 years ago,
an explanation as to why he did so would breach this forum's rules barring posts having political and/or religious content
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his Wikipedia page is quite kind in its description of him.
To all of you getting a long weekend, enjoy the Easter break.
Ian.
PS
I am not sure what Mr Webster would have made of the USA largely observing Easter Sunday given that Scotland, the land of his forebears,
didn't and still doesn't have it as a national holiday...?
A few years ago Melvyn Bragg made and presented a TV series on this interesting subject.
Americanism is an example of this

The first American dictionaries were produced by Noah Webster 200 years ago,
an explanation as to why he did so would breach this forum's rules barring posts having political and/or religious content

his Wikipedia page is quite kind in its description of him.
To all of you getting a long weekend, enjoy the Easter break.
Ian.
PS

didn't and still doesn't have it as a national holiday...?
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Re: Vice or Vise
Because most non conformists ( proper Christians as opposed to genetic or denominational ones) celebrate the
resurrection every Lord's day and have no need for this Papist inheritance of a pagan celebration of equinox.
If the resurrection only meets your thinking on an anual basis you havent grasped its significance.....
Happy Easter everyone...I like the chocolate and any excuse for a party or bank holiday is good by me...
I'll be under the car....(except on Sunday) - I never work on a Sunday.
Jonners
resurrection every Lord's day and have no need for this Papist inheritance of a pagan celebration of equinox.
If the resurrection only meets your thinking on an anual basis you havent grasped its significance.....

Happy Easter everyone...I like the chocolate and any excuse for a party or bank holiday is good by me...
I'll be under the car....(except on Sunday) - I never work on a Sunday.
Jonners
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I do try not to work for payment on Sundays (and mostly succeed), however I think working on your own classic car can be categorised as a leisure pursuit rather than work, so is therefore acceptable. And Easter has nothing to do with the pagans, it's date is related to that of the Jewish feast of the Passover.Jon Tilson wrote:Because most non conformists ( proper Christians as opposed to genetic or denominational ones) celebrate the
resurrection every Lord's day and have no need for this Papist inheritance of a pagan celebration of equinox.
If the resurrection only meets your thinking on an anual basis you havent grasped its significance.....
Happy Easter everyone...I like the chocolate and any excuse for a party or bank holiday is good by me...
I'll be under the car....(except on Sunday) - I never work on a Sunday.
Jonners
Steve
'73 2 door Toledo with Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 8v engine (The Carledo)
'78 Sprint Auto with Vauxhall Omega 2.2 16v engine (The Dolomega)
'72 Triumph 1500FWD in Slate Grey, Now with RWD and Carledo powertrain!
Maverick Triumph, Servicing, Repairs, Electrical, Recomissioning, MOT prep, Trackerjack brake fitting service.
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'78 Sprint Auto with Vauxhall Omega 2.2 16v engine (The Dolomega)
'72 Triumph 1500FWD in Slate Grey, Now with RWD and Carledo powertrain!
Maverick Triumph, Servicing, Repairs, Electrical, Recomissioning, MOT prep, Trackerjack brake fitting service.
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Okay.......
Here is one that I don't understand....
Sang/sung......which to use?
I've looked it up but still don't understand it
thanks,
Ian.
Sang/sung......which to use?
I've looked it up but still don't understand it

thanks,
Ian.
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Re: Vice or Vise
"I sang poorly last night."
Sang is the past tense of sing.
Happened in the past.
"He's sung that a lot."
Sung is the past participle of sing.
Happened in the past but is continuing.
Any good?
Regards.
Sang is the past tense of sing.
Happened in the past.
"He's sung that a lot."
Sung is the past participle of sing.
Happened in the past but is continuing.
Any good?
Regards.