There's really no such thing as a matching numbers Dolomite, Sprint or otherwise. True, if you have a commission number in the hundreds and an engine number in the 20 thousands, it's unlikely to be original, but even the first cars off the line didn't have exactly matching numbers the way US cars (and most Fords) do.new to this wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:57 pmAlunxvivalve wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:53 pmIn my opinion, only if the car has great provenance, like a winning racer, or the first made. As a 'journeyman' car, probably not.new to this wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:46 pm sorry to Hijack
But is a car worth more with an original engine ,than one that's been replaced (not matching numbers)
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What's "market value"?
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Re: What's "market value"?
SteveCarledo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:11 pmThere's really no such thing as a matching numbers Dolomite, Sprint or otherwise. True, if you have a commission number in the hundreds and an engine number in the 20 thousands, it's unlikely to be original, but even the first cars off the line didn't have exactly matching numbers the way US cars (and most Fords) do.
What i meant about matching numbers was the number as listed on log book
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The engine number is required to match the engine number on the log book. If it doesn't you should fill the logbook out with the "new" engine number and send off to DVLA to get it corrected.
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My experiences have been so similar to Alun's, even over the other side of the world. A decade or so I had a payout on agreed value (less excess) within a week. No argument.
I wouldn't touch any policy, for classic or modern that wasn't agreed value. Market value insurance for cars like Dolomites and you might as well not waste your money and just pay for third party.
I do believe though that it is prudent to have some sort of evidence to back up the agreed value you insure for, just to avoid any argument later.
There are also more 'get out' clauses creeping in as well. My latest one, on a powerful modern though, includes:
- only insured if NO modifications from manufacturer spec, including engine, sound system, steering, suspension, tyres or wheels
- all traffic offences for named drivers have been declared (other than parking)
- non named drivers have a hefty additional excess and if they are regular driver, who haven't been named then they may not be covered.
Some of this can get quite scary as this doesn't only apply to your vehicle not being covered, but if you are at fault, you may personally be liable for third party costs and damages.
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I wouldn't touch any policy, for classic or modern that wasn't agreed value. Market value insurance for cars like Dolomites and you might as well not waste your money and just pay for third party.
I do believe though that it is prudent to have some sort of evidence to back up the agreed value you insure for, just to avoid any argument later.
There are also more 'get out' clauses creeping in as well. My latest one, on a powerful modern though, includes:
- only insured if NO modifications from manufacturer spec, including engine, sound system, steering, suspension, tyres or wheels
- all traffic offences for named drivers have been declared (other than parking)
- non named drivers have a hefty additional excess and if they are regular driver, who haven't been named then they may not be covered.
Some of this can get quite scary as this doesn't only apply to your vehicle not being covered, but if you are at fault, you may personally be liable for third party costs and damages.
Geoff
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Re: What's "market value"?
Anybody got any recent values of1973 Mimosa Sprints changing hands, basket cases included.
There was a nice looing supposed 73 car on ebay for 11k, IIRC, a little while ago, but it looked like a much later car inside.
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There was a nice looing supposed 73 car on ebay for 11k, IIRC, a little while ago, but it looked like a much later car inside.
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The 16v Slant 4 engine is more fun than the 3.5 V8, because you mostly drive it on the upslope of the torque curve.
Factory 1977 TR7 Sprint FHC VVC 697S (Now all of, but still needs putting together)
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Factory 1977 TR7 Sprint FHC VVC 697S (Now all of, but still needs putting together)
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1970 Maroon 13/60 Herald Convertable (wife's fun car).
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There's an early Sprint on ebay at the moment, a '74 restoration project. It's at just over £2k finishing soon.
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FINALLY!!!!! A car which purports to be an early car with almost all the signs that it acually IS an early car and not a reshell. Only the late style under-riders and missing holes in the front valance are not in keeping with early spec and this is understandable if the car was "rebuilt with new BL panels" in the 1990s as claimed, since replacement series I spec parts weren't available then (or since)Bish wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:28 am Might help if you haven’t seen it already?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1973-Triumph ... 1438.l2649
Currently at £4750 with only 2 hours to go, i'd say it's a bit of a bargain, even if it does need some cosmetic tidying!
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This is making SCG look like an incredible bargain!
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'73 2 door Toledo with Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 8v engine (The Carledo)
'78 Sprint Auto with Vauxhall Omega 2.2 16v engine (The Dolomega)
'72 Triumph 1500FWD in Slate Grey, Now with RWD and Carledo powertrain!
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'78 Sprint Auto with Vauxhall Omega 2.2 16v engine (The Dolomega)
'72 Triumph 1500FWD in Slate Grey, Now with RWD and Carledo powertrain!
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Re: What's "market value"?
It's happening slowly, but i'm hoping for more rapid progress now it's no longer sub zero all day!
Steve
'73 2 door Toledo with Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 8v engine (The Carledo)
'78 Sprint Auto with Vauxhall Omega 2.2 16v engine (The Dolomega)
'72 Triumph 1500FWD in Slate Grey, Now with RWD and Carledo powertrain!
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'72 Triumph 1500FWD in Slate Grey, Now with RWD and Carledo powertrain!
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