Is it advantageous to fit a relay in my Dolomites starter circuit?

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Re: Okay........

#16 Post by GrahamFountain »

soe8m wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 8:08 am
It's like putting a bucket under a leaky tap instead of repairing the tap....

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If adding a relay is analogous to "putting a bucket under a leaky tap", what then is the analogue of "repairing the tap"?

And how is that good an analogy, when the bucket requires repeated, presumably reasonably frequent, action to empty it? Whereas, a relay shouldn't need changing very often; especially, if you use Steve's Victorian engineering solution of bigger is better.

In addition to the relays in the main and dips, I've a relay operating the washer pump. That's because, between the crappy push button on the stalk and the resistance in the ignition switch, it was distinctly iffy in operation. And it was just so much easier and cheaper to add a relay than replace the stalk and ignition switches.

So, given that the problem I have with the normal ignition switch contacts spread to those that operate the starter, I wouldn't hesitate to add a relay for that as well. I might even look for one with a manual option, like on the Herald, that lets me start/restart the car from the engine bay.

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Re: Is it advantageous to fit a relay in my Dolomites starter circuit?

#17 Post by soe8m »

When the ignition switch is faulty and causes a lot of trouble I would change the ignition switch instead of adding multiple relais in ignition operated circuits.

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Re: Is it advantageous to fit a relay in my Dolomites starter circuit?

#18 Post by Carledo »

soe8m wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:40 pm When the ignition switch is faulty and causes a lot of trouble I would change the ignition switch instead of adding multiple relais in ignition operated circuits.

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The ignition switch is the weak link, it's also expensive and getting harder to come by as the years go by. I don't have a faulty or troublesome switch, but to extend it's lifespan, possibly almost indefinitely, why wouldn't I minimize the working load on it by fitting a cheap and easily replaced, widely available relay?

I have a secondary reason on the Dolomega, insofar as i have fitted a pushbutton start facility and disabled the original spring loaded ignition switch "start" position. The pushbutton switch I have used is nowhere near robust enough to take starter loads so a relay is a must!

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Re: Is it advantageous to fit a relay in my Dolomites starter circuit?

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Carledo wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:45 pm
The ignition switch is the weak link, it's also expensive and getting harder to come by as the years go by.

Steve
Also, while replacing the switch may not be that hard, getting the column cover back on is one of them jobs I feel "why put off till tomorrow what you can put off till next week" about.

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The 16v Slant 4 engine is more fun than the 3.5 V8, because you mostly drive it on the upslope of the torque curve.

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