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Re: Modern BRG paint code
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:17 pm
by GlenM
Also, colour photographic paper degrades quite quickly and the colours of the print change. This could well cause the green to appear darker than it actually was.
Re: Modern BRG paint code
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:33 am
by Carledo
xvivalve wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:41 pm
My theory is MUCH simpler.
Photographic reproduction back in the day was variable based on the camera, the photographer, the exposure, the shutter speed, the speed of the film and the quality of developer, all of which could alter colours dramatically.
Oh for sure it does. But i've had a conversation with Richard "off camera" as it were, and he remembers the colour as being that dark in real life.
Steve
Re: Modern BRG paint code
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:49 am
by TrustNo1
if you use a decent proper paint shop that supplies bodyshops they will be able to produce the correct colour in cellulose using the Triumph paint code. The shop i use still has the old swatches
Re: Modern BRG paint code
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:23 pm
by matt of the vivas
Just an aside to this....
The comments about Mallard.
Here's my car, parked under natural light and then artificial light...
I still say it's Blue
Re: Modern BRG paint code
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:04 pm
by xvivalve
The confusion here is where the Mallard name came from; it has nothing to do with ducks, which are green, but I believe it was based on the original colour of the famous Gresley locomotive 'Mallard' which was blue.
Mallard the locomotive is however now painted something that more closely resembles French blue!
Re: Modern BRG paint code
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:27 pm
by spitrouette
Hello
I am in France and I rebuild a dolomite sprint of 1976 the paint code displayed in the car is C11 which corresponds to black however my car is white what can be the modern paint code today
Good day
Re: Modern BRG paint code
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 2:37 pm
by spitrouette
Today
Re: Modern BRG paint code
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:29 pm
by Carledo
If it's a 76 car the correct white is code 19, simply called "White"
C11 is a trim code the C denoting cloth trim and 11 the colour black.
HTH, Steve
Re: Modern BRG paint code
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:59 pm
by Carledo
xvivalve wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:04 pm
The confusion here is where the Mallard name came from; it has nothing to do with ducks, which are green, but I believe it was based on the original colour of the famous Gresley locomotive 'Mallard' which was blue.
Mallard the locomotive is however now painted something that more closely resembles French blue!
Sorry Alun, just another urban legend!
The loco "Mallard", which still holds the world speed record for steam traction at 126mph was originally painted Garter Blue a shade closer to Pageant blue than anything else and named for the colour of the sash of the order of the Garter. During the war, along with all other locos she became black. On the formation of British railways in 1948, she was painted briefly in the experimental BR express passenger blue (the colour she wears today) before the experiment (along with the red and yellow coaches that accompanied it, known to afficcionados as "blood and custard") was dropped. Her last in service colour change was in circa 1952 to the new standard BR passenger lined green loco livery. This is nearer to Mallard (the colour) than anything else, but doesn't have the blue tinge of the Triumph shade, it's effectively GWR loco green, a darkish BRG sort of colour.
After withdrawal and preservation, Mallard was returned to Garter blue and the condition she was when she broke the speed record. The BR blue is a fairly recent repaint. And is arousing considerable controversy amongst railway buffs!
There you go, that's more history than anyone needs!
Steve
Re: Modern BRG paint code
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:10 am
by spitrouette
Good morning
it would correspond to that then
https://code.peinturevoiture.fr/31730.html
Re: Modern BRG paint code
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:35 am
by xvivalve
Carledo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:59 pm
xvivalve wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:04 pm
The confusion here is where the Mallard name came from; it has nothing to do with ducks, which are green, but I believe it was based on the original colour of the famous Gresley locomotive 'Mallard' which was blue.
Mallard the locomotive is however now painted something that more closely resembles French blue!
Sorry Alun, just another urban legend!
The loco "Mallard", which still holds the world speed record for steam traction at 126mph was originally painted Garter Blue a shade closer to Pageant blue than anything else and named for the colour of the sash of the order of the Garter. During the war, along with all other locos she became black. On the formation of British railways in 1948, she was painted briefly in the experimental BR express passenger blue (the colour she wears today) before the experiment (along with the red and yellow coaches that accompanied it, known to afficcionados as "blood and custard") was dropped. Her last in service colour change was in circa 1952 to the new standard BR passenger lined green loco livery. This is nearer to Mallard (the colour) than anything else, but doesn't have the blue tinge of the Triumph shade, it's effectively GWR loco green, a darkish BRG sort of colour.
After withdrawal and preservation, Mallard was returned to Garter blue and the condition she was when she broke the speed record. The BR blue is a fairly recent repaint. And is arousing considerable controversy amongst railway buffs!
There you go, that's more history than anyone needs!
Steve
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