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Re: Dolomite Sprint - £32,950.

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:53 am
by RSi
10yearsafter wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:19 pm Just to have a say; Bearing in mind that this car is not original spec. it is being sold through the trade who may have bought it from a restorer that they trust?, so they would have to have a mark up and would have to give a warranty.
Is it worth the asking price? Well that is for the purchaser to decide. Is the spec what they want? Do they have enough knowledge to know what is non original ?
If we think about the cost of any restoration, I for one know what a full rebuild with up grades costs and I would suggest this is not an unreasonable asking price, depending on the work done.

The point about Fords is well made as is the fact that moaning about high prices does not do the marque any good. If you have the skill and the knowledge to do the work good luck but it does not mean that you have to give the end result away for less than cost!

There are people out there who do not have the skills but want one of our cars and they have the means.

There are club members out there who do have all the skills and specialist Knowledge and they deserve a fair return and if they can find a buyer with deep pockets It probably means that they can find another basket case that they can save, which has to be good. I speak as someone who made the dubious decision of having some of the work done by a company who outwardly seemed excellent but did not have the specialist Knowledge which slowed the process down,so much so that they lost interest and that has cost me time and money to check their work and to have it put right.
Bob

The potential Sprint you could buy with that volume of money, would at some point eat up whoever spends that on this one.

Anyone with 32k to spend on a Sprint, should in reality be getting the best available. That's an obscene amount of money.

Re: Dolomite Sprint - £32,950.

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:41 pm
by TrustNo1
new to this wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:09 pm What way should the side lights be ?

Dave
clues in the name.

Re: Dolomite Sprint - £32,950.

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 8:27 am
by shaunroche
TrustNo1 wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:41 pm
new to this wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:09 pm What way should the side lights be ?

Dave
clues in the name.
:lol:

Re: Dolomite Sprint - £32,950.

Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 2:52 pm
by B8WLY
Anyone know if this car sold ?

As an owner I really hope so as it means the cars are being recognised for what they really are.

Richard.

Re: Dolomite Sprint - £32,950.

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 3:32 pm
by RSi
xvivalve wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:23 am I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, this is one reason why they’ll never fetch Mk1/Mk2 Escort prices, because every time one is advertised with an optimistic price tag, it is talked down on here.

I bet that doesn’t happen on the Ford forum!
It was all Fords I had before I bought the Sprint, and been a member of the RSOC for longer than I can remember. Up until just a few years ago their website forum was really active, and seldom would you experience negativity towards cars, instead it was always the potential that was seen.

If we constantly talk down our own cars, it's no wonder they've struggled to climb in value.

When I joined the Dolomite forum, the one thing that stood out, is exactly what Alun says.

Re: Dolomite Sprint - £32,950.

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:36 pm
by naskeet
new to this wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:28 pm
Carledo wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:47 pm
new to this wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:09 pm What way should the side lights be ?

Dave
The sidelight should be outboard and the indicator should be inboard.

The reason being that a Construction and Use regulation forbids the sidelight/obligatory front lamp being more than a prescribed distance from the outermost edge of the car. Reversing the lamps so that the indicator is outboard is more logical but contravenes the sidelight rule.

Fortunately, most members of the constabulary are ignorant of the exact details of the rules and rarely carry a tape measure to check. So largely speaking, you are gonna get away with it indefinitely!

Of course, you can always do what I did and fit the sidelight in the outer headlamp, then you can do what you like with the indicator!

Steve
Thanks Steve

im going to leave the side lights where they are, and put DRL in the headlight

thanks Dave

You might want the check the regulations re acceptable position, intensity & colour of DRLs - daytime running lights, which should be in the Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989 or later amendments.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/198 ... tents/made

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/198 ... ule/3/made

Running lamps fitted to satisfy regulation 18 shall be in the form of a matched pair of front lamps, each of which–

(a) is fitted in a position in which an obligatory front position lamp may lawfully be fitted, and

(b) is capable of emitting white light to the front having an intensity of not less than 200 candelas, measured from directly in front of the centre of the lamp in a direction parallel to the longitudinal axis of the vehicle, and of not more than 800 candelas in any direction.

Re: Dolomite Sprint - £32,950.

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:26 pm
by Kt66
xvivalve wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:23 am I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, this is one reason why they’ll never fetch Mk1/Mk2 Escort prices, because every time one is advertised with an optimistic price tag, it is talked down on here.

I bet that doesn’t happen on the Ford forum!

A few folk have found out recently that you can’t properly restore a Sprint successfully and cheaply; so if you want one in reasonable fettle, you’ll have to prise it from the current owner and pay accordingly.

Practical Classics price guide has under valued Dolomites for the last 35 years…maybe they look on here for opinion!
Spot on Alun. I don't get the negativity either. These are great cars.

Re: Dolomite Sprint - £32,950.

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 5:34 pm
by shaunroche
Kt66 wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:26 pm
Practical Classics price guide has under valued Dolomites for the last 35 years…maybe they look on here for opinion!
Spot on Alun. I don't get the negativity either. These are great cars.
This debate reminds me when I had an E46 M3 and my mate had a 911 996.....I thought the M3 was a sports car, but after driving the 911 I realised mine was more a GT, a sports tourer but the 911 is an out and out sports car....

The Sprint for me is like the M3, the escort the 911...the Ford is a way more fun car that relies very heavily on it's sporting heritage (rallying) which the Sprint hasn't got...I Sprint and Hill climb a racing Sprint - if I had the funds I'd use an Escort...if I was going on a spirited European road trip I'd take the Sprint road car....it's such a pity the Sprint is compared to the Escort as the Sprint is the better all round car.

Still I can't see an issue with a top class Sprint going for £30k....it's a lot of car when compared to a MKI/MKII or an Alfa or BMW I think...and that point about it costing a fortune a Sprint...let me tell you, to do it properly, you're not wrong!

Re: Dolomite Sprint - £32,950.

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:49 pm
by B8WLY
shaunroche wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 5:34 pm
Kt66 wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:26 pm
Practical Classics price guide has under valued Dolomites for the last 35 years…maybe they look on here for opinion!
Spot on Alun. I don't get the negativity either. These are great cars.
This debate reminds me when I had an E46 M3 and my mate had a 911 996.....I thought the M3 was a sports car, but after driving the 911 I realised mine was more a GT, a sports tourer but the 911 is an out and out sports car....

The Sprint for me is like the M3, the escort the 911...the Ford is a way more fun car that relies very heavily on it's sporting heritage (rallying) which the Sprint hasn't got...I Sprint and Hill climb a racing Sprint - if I had the funds I'd use an Escort...if I was going on a spirited European road trip I'd take the Sprint road car....it's such a pity the Sprint is compared to the Escort as the Sprint is the better all round car.

Still I can't see an issue with a top class Sprint going for £30k....it's a lot of car when compared to a MKI/MKII or an Alfa or BMW I think...and that point about it costing a fortune a Sprint...let me tell you, to do it properly, you're not wrong!
I am going to have to disagree about the Escort v Sprint argument.

I am lucky to have both and the Sprint is the far more superior car. It drives better, is more comfortable, does not rattle like a Ford, the gearbox is smoother, the finish and especially the dash is classier, the only thing the Sprint does not have is the value.

Why MarkI and MarkII Escorts are so much money only the Lord above knows. I do like my Escort don’t get me wrong but it’s an investment, where as I love my Sprint.

As for the RS Owners Club. Any one that jacks their cars up at shows, takes the wheels off and puts mirrors under the vehicle needs a visit to the local nut house. It’s not for me. A good Dolomite get together with a pie and a pint is far more me !!

Looking forward to a couple of Dolomite get together’s in deepest Kent next Spring.

Re: Dolomite Sprint - £32,950.

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:15 pm
by new to this
B8WLY wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:49 pm
shaunroche wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 5:34 pm
Kt66 wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:26 pm
Practical Classics price guide has under valued Dolomites for the last 35 years…maybe they look on here for opinion!
Spot on Alun. I don't get the negativity either. These are great cars.
This debate reminds me when I had an E46 M3 and my mate had a 911 996.....I thought the M3 was a sports car, but after driving the 911 I realised mine was more a GT, a sports tourer but the 911 is an out and out sports car....

The Sprint for me is like the M3, the escort the 911...the Ford is a way more fun car that relies very heavily on it's sporting heritage (rallying) which the Sprint hasn't got...I Sprint and Hill climb a racing Sprint - if I had the funds I'd use an Escort...if I was going on a spirited European road trip I'd take the Sprint road car....it's such a pity the Sprint is compared to the Escort as the Sprint is the better all round car.

Still I can't see an issue with a top class Sprint going for £30k....it's a lot of car when compared to a MKI/MKII or an Alfa or BMW I think...and that point about it costing a fortune a Sprint...let me tell you, to do it properly, you're not wrong!
I am going to have to disagree about the Escort v Sprint argument.

I am lucky to have both and the Sprint is the far more superior car. It drives better, is more comfortable, does not rattle like a Ford, the gearbox is smoother, the finish and especially the dash is classier, the only thing the Sprint does not have is the value.

Why MarkI and MarkII Escorts are so much money only the Lord above knows. I do like my Escort don’t get me wrong but it’s an investment, where as I love my Sprint.

As for the RS Owners Club. Any one that jacks their cars up at shows, takes the wheels off and puts mirrors under the vehicle needs a visit to the local nut house. It’s not for me. A good Dolomite get together with a pie and a pint is far more me !!

Looking forward to a couple of Dolomite get together’s in deepest Kent next Spring.
Looking at the Sprint and the Rs together i think the Sprint should have had a rear spoilor
both your cars look in good order :) :)

Dave

Re: Dolomite Sprint - £32,950.

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:05 am
by killysprint
@B8WLY Lovely Sprint!! and nice to see the RS originally from Gods Own Country.......Newcastle upon Tyne. (or Gateshead to be more accurate)

Have always wanted a MK2 RS2000 - couldn't justify the spent now to get one in the condition I would want. Very Jealous!!

Re: Dolomite Sprint - £32,950.

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 4:30 pm
by Macleesh
I'm struck (from an admittedly biased position) by how much prettier the Dolomite is alongside the Escort. I don't think the MK2 at least has aged well.

Re: Dolomite Sprint - £32,950.

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:44 pm
by shaunroche
I am going to have to disagree about the Escort v Sprint argument.....

My word, I can't imagine having that dilemma to deal with, a Sprint and a mk2, wow!

I'd still take the mk2 over the Sprint though and disappear off drifting around all the local roundabouts like the adolescent 54 year old that I am!

Re: Dolomite Sprint - £32,950.

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:45 pm
by shaunroche
killysprint wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:05 am @B8WLY Lovely Sprint!! and nice to see the RS originally from Gods Own Country.......Newcastle upon Tyne. (or Gateshead to be more accurate)!!
Don't be soft, Gateshead isn't in Yorkshire! ;)

Re: Dolomite Sprint - £32,950.

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:59 am
by GlenM
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Looking at the Sprint and the Rs together i think the Sprint should have had a rear spoilor
both your cars look in good order :) :)

Dave

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When I bought my Sprint, in about 1990, it had a rubber Formuling rear spolier fitted. I took it off when it got resprayed black but, with hindsight, it actually quite suited the car.


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