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Re: Ride height
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:49 pm
by Carledo
You beat me to it Paul, without the second rings, the platforms will creep anyway, in fact I think it is the platforms that are missing and only the lock rings are present.
Those platforms do indeed look high to me and ARE compared with my car. But my car is very light compared with a Sprint and my springs are new and stock length and poundage. Are those springs you have fitted standard or uprated?
Steve
Re: Ride height
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:42 am
by olr159w
OK. I was going to ask which locknut but thought that was what you meant.
These Gaz shocks are 12+ years old. Very low mileage but not current stock by a long way.
I haven't missed anything out. This is what they have always been like both front and rear. It doesn't know any different for whatever reason.
On the ride height it is supposed to have HD springs. When the car was rebuilt I did some of the trim and out of workshop engine bits. The rest of it somebody else did with me supplying the parts in a lot of the cases. I assume they fitted the HD springs . But then again maybe they left off the spring seats so who knows.
Other than that it's a regular Sprint. The only extra in the engine compartment is an oil cooler. Probably offset by the lightened flywheel.
Re: Ride height
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:36 am
by lazeruspete
olr159w wrote:
I haven't missed anything out. This is what they have always been like both front and rear. It doesn't know any different for whatever reason.
Sorry to contradict you but you should definitely have 2 lock rings on each damper. If you don't then the platform height will change over time(i.e the platform will wind itself further down the damper).
http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GDA4012GAZAS
the above link shows the main spring platform (the one with the larger diameter) sitting above a smaller platform which locks (and hence, stops) the top platform from moving under load.
http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GDA4010GAZAS similar story on the rear(although the two platforms are the same diameter this time, for whatever reason)
much like this one.
hope this helps!
Re: Ride height
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:01 pm
by olr159w
Sorry. I'm not saying you're wrong. Just that the car has never had two lock rings ever since the new shocks were put on years ago. I don't possess any other parts with which to resolve this and never have done
Re: Ride height
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:31 pm
by lazeruspete
olr159w wrote:Sorry. I'm not saying you're wrong. Just that the car has never had two lock rings ever since the new shocks were put on years ago. I don't possess any other parts with which to resolve this and never have done
I understand that but it doesnt mean it shouldnt have them

Re: Ride height
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:43 pm
by Mad Mart
My AVOs only have one locking ring. They shouldn't creep if you have the locking screw tightened.

Re: Ride height
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:02 pm
by lazeruspete
Ok in that case, if OP has locking screws in his one locking ring then everything is ok.
Re: Ride height
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:05 pm
by Mad Mart
Ah! I see. Yes they should have a locking screw if you only have one bottom mount. The Spax I have just fitted to XJX don't have locking screws but they do have the locking ring.
Re: Ride height
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:44 pm
by lazeruspete
and to be perfectly honest, I didn't know one platform/locking pin variants existed! i've always seen them with 2 rings.
Re: Ride height
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:16 pm
by olr159w
You guys are gold mine of timely info
I'm pretty sure mine were never supplied with two rings and I'm certain they never had two rings fitted. I just checked the back ones and they are the same. What I need to do is check regarding the locking screws. Do that tomorrow
Re: Ride height
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 4:03 pm
by lazeruspete
olr159w wrote:You guys are gold mine of timely info
I'm pretty sure mine were never supplied with two rings and I'm certain they never had two rings fitted. I just checked the back ones and they are the same. What I need to do is check regarding the locking screws. Do that tomorrow
that's what this forum is for

Re: Ride height
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:01 am
by olr159w
Mine do have allen key grub screw type locking arrangements. I can't imagine it's as robust as the two lock rings which might be why they changed ..... assuming they have but mine are pretty old.
Thanks
Re: Ride height
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:22 am
by Henk
The locking screws on AVO shocks are rubbish indeed. They're made of plastic, the allen key to tighten them slips very easily thus ruining the screw. Replaced mine with a 'normal' steel bolt, which in turn ruins the thread on the shock when tightened too much...
I'd prefer the two rings solution.
Re: Ride height
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:39 am
by Flyfisherman
Henk wrote:I'd prefer the two rings solution.
So do I - but you have to be careful when securing the two rings - they only need nipping together, if you secure them like you would normally think to secure the two together you will never get them apart.
GAZ advised me of the above when I purchased my locknut spanners from them - shame the spanners were not supplied with the shocks.
Paul
Re: Ride height
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:13 pm
by Carledo
I bought my Gaz through the TSSC and they came with spanners, 1 with the front pair and (about a year later) 1 with the rear pair!
Nobody told me to be gentle with the lock rings but I only nipped them anyway. I've also been generous with copaslip on the threads and so far have had no trouble adjusting, even with the weight on the wheels (a 4 poster ramp helps!)
Steve