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Re: Fueling problem

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 7:18 pm
by Jon Tilson
I'm with Jeroen on the brake pipe material. Ive used my roll of Kunifer for years.
But I have to take issue with the cheap flaring tool comments.

My cheapo draper set makes perfectly acceptable flares on brake pipes and has done for a while.
I also managed to undo a pipe on a dolomite I must have replaced several years ago. No binding of the steel union into alloy cylinder
on kunifer pipe with union made by me...

Sample of just the one I know, but I guess it shows the advantages of copaslip and silicone brake fluid...

The pipes will twist if the union sticks to them, but a bit of copaslip between the pipe and the union is very good at stopping that.

Jonners

Re: Fueling problem

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 8:25 pm
by soe8m
Karlos wrote:Straying way off topic I know...
I just read the article from the geezer in the MMOC. The guy who's brake pipe failed went out a few days later and the trunion on the front hub failed. In his picture of the failed trunion/hub there is a manky rusted bit of what looks like steel pipe onto his brake cylinder. After all his spouting about evil dangerous copper, he still has a rusty pipe on the front brakes and worn out trunions. I wonder if he just replaced the failed trunion and not all of them-same as he didn't bother to check the rest of his brake pipes?
Yes from a dolomite fuelling problem to a broken trunion of a morris. A not so well maintened car. I do fear these things will happen more and more in Holland also. No MOT for pre 1960 cars. Very dangerious. It is a well known fact that cars dated pre 1960 are owned by real car enthousiasts that do spend a lot of money and time to keep their cars in top condition and are better than new. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well people have to be killed by accident first then they will have an MOT again on all cars. A latest example was a fine restored car that did pull to the left when braking. 6mm play on a trackrod end. Nice brushed and painted and a fresh new rubber dust cap on it. Restored to new. :lol: :lol: Oooh it's not the brakes then? Then you may leave it that way. I do not drive much and only wanted you check if all was save......

Jeroen

Re: Fueling problem

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 9:00 pm
by Carledo
I don't have anything old enough to qualify for MOT exemption, but if I did, I'd still get it tested once a year. Nobody is perfect, even us professionals, it always pays to get a second opinion and a fresh look.

Steve

Re: Fueling problem

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 7:32 am
by tony g
When mine is except I'd still like it tested, if only to have someone elses opinion too.

Tony

Re: Fueling problem

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 8:42 am
by Mahesh
No MOT check at all is the worst idea, every vehicle needs to be overlooked,

Reducing failures over bulbs and minor consumables would not hurt, but not on majors,
and a flat fee of around £30 would be welcome.

Re: Fueling problem

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 10:21 pm
by James467
I don't have anything old enough to qualify for MOT exemption, but if I did, I'd still get it tested once a year. Nobody is perfect, even us professionals, it always pays to get a second opinion and a fresh look.
Completely agree there Steve

Re: Fueling problem

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 8:21 am
by Karlos
Found another dodgy bit of flexible pipe last night after getting the car up on ramps. The metal pipe is not a single run from the tank to the engine bay. So I have replaced the perished pipe that exists at the edge of the rear floor where it bends up into the axle area.
The flexible pipes had been replaced a while ago, maybe 5 or 6 years but it looks like they are all failing. Time to rip it all out and replace. I need some proper pipe that is capable of handling modern fuels, seems there is a lot of poor quality material available. Makes me think now about how safe any car is even with an MOT.

Re: Fueling problem

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 8:29 am
by Mahesh
I had the same, on my car there is another near the passenger side exhaust box.

Re: Fueling problem

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 9:18 pm
by Richard the old one
We had discussions on this discussion board in February on fuel line hose and identified the correct spec for low pressure fuel hose that will resist ethanol as being SAE30R14.