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Re: AWD dolomite

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:46 pm
by Boost All The Dollys
DF wrote:
I don't think the engine bay has that much room ,unless you have a Tardis dolomite lol
This is my 4 cyl and its tight
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so tight infact ive put the rad in the boot
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Well, that's one way of doing it...

I thought the engine bay is quite big for a car of its size.

Re: AWD dolomite

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:50 pm
by tony g
I had a R33 GTR for 5 years. Brilliant car, does everything in a civilised manner and fast with it, handled great for a 1600kg car. No spare cash after petrol and tyres lol. It doesnt have the appeal of the dolly to me any more, I just love the classic look of the dolly just not the mechanicals so much lol. 80mph feels like 150 in the GTR so its all relevant unless youre actually racing lol. My next "biggie" will be Audi Quattro UR :)

Tony
Carledo wrote:My take, get a Dolly shell, remove everything forward of the bulkhead, make up a big cage/front clip to support the powerplant and suspension of your choice then cover it with a GRP/CF flip front.......... Seemples!
But to be honest, why not just buy a Skyline, tune the nuts off it and hoon it about? There's a place for one in my lottery list garage!

Steve

Re: AWD dolomite

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:19 pm
by Boost All The Dollys
tony g wrote:I had a R33 GTR for 5 years. Brilliant car, does everything in a civilised manner and fast with it, handled great for a 1600kg car. No spare cash after petrol and tyres lol. It doesnt have the appeal of the dolly to me any more, I just love the classic look of the dolly just not the mechanicals so much lol. 80mph feels like 150 in the GTR so its all relevant unless youre actually racing lol. My next "biggie" will be Audi Quattro UR :)

Tony
Carledo wrote:My take, get a Dolly shell, remove everything forward of the bulkhead, make up a big cage/front clip to support the powerplant and suspension of your choice then cover it with a GRP/CF flip front.......... Seemples!
But to be honest, why not just buy a Skyline, tune the nuts off it and hoon it about? There's a place for one in my lottery list garage!

Steve
Quattro would be fun, I just like the idea of a wolf in sheeps clothing, the skylomite would be a steroid induced bear in sheeps clothing.

with an RB25/26 pumping out serious hp to all 4 wheels would be a super car shamer. Super rat rod look tho for added effect. Multi coloured panels and bits of primer dotted around. Would be like the Street Outlaws pick up

Re: AWD dolomite

Posted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:31 pm
by Boost All The Dollys
after conceding this thread and idea to the history books, I have had a new thought on how to get around the rear cross member problem...

... by going through it.

I the front diff is mounted low in the engine bay, and angle it downwards, you could put a universal joint in the cross member which will connect up to a 4x4 gearbox using an angled driveshaft (angled as in not parallel with the rest of the drivetrain

so in essence, the propshaft would be made of two/three pieces

Re: AWD dolomite

Posted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:05 pm
by mikew
I'd be very very careful about doing any chassis or bodyshell alterations what so ever.

The DVLA has pulled the V5's from several car owners where it has been brought to their attention.

The MOT test stations have been asked to report on such modifications too.

There is a VERY long thread on the Austin owners club forum about this - well worth a read

http://pub25.bravenet.com/forum/static/ ... =show&cp=1

And instances of several cars banned from the roads because of body / chassis modifications.

if you do such modifications I wouldn't discuss them on forums either as the DVLA is known to browse car forums.

The thread starts with a discussion about the Bugatti owners club and their actions. This seems to have caused the DVLA's reaction, I would assume the Hot Rod / Custom Car boys are very worried

Re: AWD dolomite

Posted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:36 pm
by Boost All The Dollys
mikew wrote:I'd be very very careful about doing any chassis or bodyshell alterations what so ever.

The DVLA has pulled the V5's from several car owners where it has been brought to their attention.

The MOT test stations have been asked to report on such modifications too.

There is a VERY long thread on the Austin owners club forum about this - well worth a read

http://pub25.bravenet.com/forum/static/ ... =show&cp=1

And instances of several cars banned from the roads because of body / chassis modifications.

if you do such modifications I wouldn't discuss them on forums either as the DVLA is known to browse car forums.

The thread starts with a discussion about the Bugatti owners club and their actions. This seems to have caused the DVLA's reaction, I would assume the Hot Rod / Custom Car boys are very worried
I would be doint this and not telling them, id put the car through an IVA as a kit car and or a Q plate car

Re: AWD dolomite

Posted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:02 pm
by mikew
Boost All The Dollys wrote:
mikew wrote:I'd be very very careful about doing any chassis or bodyshell alterations what so ever.

The DVLA has pulled the V5's from several car owners where it has been brought to their attention.

The MOT test stations have been asked to report on such modifications too.

There is a VERY long thread on the Austin owners club forum about this - well worth a read

http://pub25.bravenet.com/forum/static/ ... =show&cp=1

And instances of several cars banned from the roads because of body / chassis modifications.

if you do such modifications I wouldn't discuss them on forums either as the DVLA is known to browse car forums.

The thread starts with a discussion about the Bugatti owners club and their actions. This seems to have caused the DVLA's reaction, I would assume the Hot Rod / Custom Car boys are very worried
I would be doint this and not telling them, id put the car through an IVA as a kit car and or a Q plate car
A dolomite won't pass an IVA easily - it will need significant mounts of time and money spent on it, (for instance the windscreens and glass aren't now compliant with IVA regs) and the Q plate won't work either because of the structural modifications.

Re: AWD dolomite

Posted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:45 pm
by Boost All The Dollys
mikew wrote:
Boost All The Dollys wrote:
mikew wrote:I'd be very very careful about doing any chassis or bodyshell alterations what so ever.

The DVLA has pulled the V5's from several car owners where it has been brought to their attention.

The MOT test stations have been asked to report on such modifications too.

There is a VERY long thread on the Austin owners club forum about this - well worth a read

http://pub25.bravenet.com/forum/static/ ... =show&cp=1

And instances of several cars banned from the roads because of body / chassis modifications.

if you do such modifications I wouldn't discuss them on forums either as the DVLA is known to browse car forums.

The thread starts with a discussion about the Bugatti owners club and their actions. This seems to have caused the DVLA's reaction, I would assume the Hot Rod / Custom Car boys are very worried
I would be doint this and not telling them, id put the car through an IVA as a kit car and or a Q plate car
A dolomite won't pass an IVA easily - it will need significant mounts of time and money spent on it, (for instance the windscreens and glass aren't now compliant with IVA regs) and the Q plate won't work either because of the structural modifications.
Is there anything else a dolomite would fail an IVA on, I have been reading the regulations and can see anti theft, glass, seat belts, side and frontal impacts, and steering column being the problem

Re: AWD dolomite

Posted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:56 pm
by mikew
Boost All The Dollys wrote: Is there anything else a dolomite would fail an IVA on, I have been reading the regulations and can see anti theft, glass, seat belts, side and frontal impacts, and steering column being the problem
Some of the dash edge radius are likely to be incorrect - fuel filler - heater knobs (should not project) markings on brake reservoir - low brake fluid indicator etc etc I think a friend of mine worked out that its about 80 items that need attention ! It would end up not being a dolomite at that point

Re: AWD dolomite

Posted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:11 pm
by Boost All The Dollys
mikew wrote:
Boost All The Dollys wrote: Is there anything else a dolomite would fail an IVA on, I have been reading the regulations and can see anti theft, glass, seat belts, side and frontal impacts, and steering column being the problem
Some of the dash edge radius are likely to be incorrect - fuel filler - heater knobs (should not project) markings on brake reservoir - low brake fluid indicator etc etc I think a friend of mine worked out that its about 80 items that need attention ! It would end up not being a dolomite at that point
As this thread is about 4wding a dolomite, there wouldn't be much dolomite left in the first place, I got a copy of the IVA book from the link you posted and ill work through it to find all the items that would need changed

Re: AWD dolomite

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:48 am
by trackerjack
Does anyone remember a Dolomite with a Stag lump in it? The guy actually extended the front of the car by about 6 inches, however it was in Triumph World about 15 years ago.

Re: AWD dolomite

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:27 am
by xvivalve
I remember it, I sold him the extra front wings to graft onto it!

Phil Reader aka 'Sprint V8' ? He later abandoned plans to put a TVR AJPv8 into it and sold it to Lewis's dad, I believe... Reg No was PRO...R

Re: AWD dolomite

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:39 pm
by Boost All The Dollys
xvivalve wrote:I remember it, I sold him the extra front wings to graft onto it!

Phil Reader aka 'Sprint V8' ? He later abandoned plans to put a TVR AJPv8 into it and sold it to Lewis's dad, I believe... Reg No was PRO...R
An ajp v8 would have been amazing

Re: AWD dolomite

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:02 pm
by trackerjack
Boost All the Dollys. You make me feel young again 8)
Don't buy what has been created.......go your own way and tread where you want :wink:
Only dead fish go with the flow.
I realise now that the Hillman Imp with a motorbike engine inserted is NOT going to be made by me and many of the other crazy ideas I have had thought of over the years will also be stillborn.
My last great garage project was the car I built and finished and put through IVA.
IVA is horrible and there are so many rules and some of them are in the mind of the examiner, if he says no it's a no. Just my seat belt bolts upset him by being imperial and hence had three lines on the head which denotes a grade 5 tensile strength and as such legal, but these lines were slightly different to his pictures, so I had to find more bolts that were marked in the metric way which is 8.8 embossed on the head. I searched and searched and finally found some Jaguar bolts that complied with the correct 8.8 but had a thread of 7/16 UNF.
Safety is the name of todays game and the poor old Dolly would fail in so many ways.
My neighbour built a Ferrari replica and the four tests that it took to get it through had him so demoralized he almost gave up.
Keep up the ideas though and don't let negative folk stop you :bluewave: .

Re: AWD dolomite

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:51 pm
by DF
Yes don't worry about the tests , it's a track car