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Re: AWD dolomite

#76 Post by soe8m »

Carledo wrote:
soe8m wrote:When I would build it I would weld a floorpan including pick up points in a dolomite body. A Sierra, celica or evo or similar. Like the rwd escorts mk3 and opel kadett 400.

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But anything of this nature is very firmly in BIVA and Q plate territory.

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And converting to 4x4 in an original bodyshell?

The only way is using a donor car and chop chop.

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#77 Post by Karlos »

soe8m wrote: The whole floorpan of a 4x4 saloon. Not half MX5.

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#78 Post by Boost All The Dollys »

Karlos wrote:
soe8m wrote: The whole floorpan of a 4x4 saloon. Not half MX5.

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Impreza full floor pan complete with running gear, then Dolly body parts grafted on.
That would probably be the easiest way to go about it. Making any floor plan fit is an IVA job, trying to make it so I don't need to go for one, if I get FWD hubs/car, you can in theory do it without chopping up the floor plan too much. It's if the front hubs are considered suspension or transmission, I asked on PistonHeads and didn't get a response
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#79 Post by soe8m »

I think you have to do some homework first. Your plans are not feasible. I know one in Holland and did google there are a few in the Uk also that are cortina mk1 body welded on a sierra cosworth 4x4.
The one here is a nice job and a sierra is not much wider so you can get away with the normal st type arches. With your plan you will have to modify too much at the front and have also no dolomite left anymore so easiest and most succesfull will be a sierra donor.

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#80 Post by Karlos »

To be honest and only my personal view, I can't see the point. A Dolomite is a Dolomite and trying to make it into something that it isn't means it possibly looses characteristics that make it what it is. It is a tough challenge you have embarked on. If it works without ending up looking like a monster truck then very well done! Good luck with your project. :D
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#81 Post by Boost All The Dollys »

soe8m wrote:I think you have to do some homework first. Your plans are not feasible. I know one in Holland and did google there are a few in the Uk also that are cortina mk1 body welded on a sierra cosworth 4x4.
The one here is a nice job and a sierra is not much wider so you can get away with the normal st type arches. With your plan you will have to modify too much at the front and have also no dolomite left anymore so easiest and most succesfull will be a sierra donor.

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The plans I have are constantly developing, but I am trying to keep it so it doesn't change too much. someone else said that Canley still has Pony 'boxes from when triumph made a 4wd dolly but I want to use an engine better than the 1500/1300.

plan is that the only part of the shell that would need modifying would be the gearbox cover, which would probably need enlarged and a space for a transfer box to go. currently the plan is for either use BWM Xdrive from either 120d or X3xdrive20d ( 120d is manual, X3xdrive20d is auto w/ paddles to give a 'box strength of at least 380nm) and maybe a front diff from either a Subaru rear or MX5 rear rotated and flipped over, rear would be sprint or an axle similar to what Darren has in his dolly.
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#82 Post by jikovron »

One issue that can be foreseen is that the diff would want to sit basically where the steering rack currently is so I guess that is the greatest problem to solve but not impossible
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#83 Post by tim »

Boost All The Dollys wrote:Has anyone ever tried to make an AWD dolomite? I heard triumph did a rally car that was AWD but I'm looking for more power and maybe AWD if it doesn't ruin the handling
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jikovron wrote:One issue that can be foreseen is that the diff would want to sit basically where the steering rack currently is so I guess that is the greatest problem to solve but not impossible
after looking at the holes where the axles for the FWD car is, the output flanges need to be located just forward and below of the steering rack, to get around this, would remove the lower part of the rack cross member so its only consists of the mounting nuts and the top sheet, then create a mount for the diff, then create a bolt in cross member to strengthen the subframe and the rack mounting plate. this would only need to happen on one side of the subframe.
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#86 Post by jikovron »

I think maybe that is a possibility although with the engine angled over to one side and maybe upwards to clear both the bulk of the diff and long driveshaft although considering it further i think that throwing the subframe away and making something that allows a front of axle fit steering rack possibly
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#87 Post by Boost All The Dollys »

jikovron wrote:I think maybe that is a possibility although with the engine angled over to one side and maybe upwards to clear both the bulk of the diff and long driveshaft although considering it further i think that throwing the subframe away and making something that allows a front of axle fit steering rack possibly
Yeah, similar to what I was thinking, it'll be classed as a modified axle anyway, it's just easier to modify than build a whole new one from tubing or something
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#88 Post by Karlos »

A Suzuki Jimny would be a better fit than BMW and MX5 mish-mash.
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#89 Post by Boost All The Dollys »

Karlos wrote:A Suzuki Jimny would be a better fit than BMW and MX5 mish-mash.
Yeah, it would be better, can be engine swapped to a swift sport engine easily, then turboed, I don't know if the box could handle it, and is a relitivly light engine. And it's cheap to buy a whole jimny and use it as a parts car
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#90 Post by robrow »

surely you would want to keep the longitudinal mounting of the original dolly?

A lot of the suggestions are transverse, and if you wanted to go this way then I would recommend going for the vag 20vt and 4x4 running gear.

Cheap, plentiful, masses of tuning potential.....

Longitudinal options would probably be scarcer, but imprezza would be one option, if there is enough room between the inner wings for a flat 4.

Dunno, just a thought.
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