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re torquing sprint head

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:18 pm
by kevs172
hi every one ,whats the general consensus on the order this should be done,thanks ,kevin

Re: re torquing sprint head

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:20 pm
by JPB
Starting on the stud side, consider the studs numbered (front to back) 1 to 5,
do number 3, then 4, then 2, then 5 then 1.

Then do the bolted side of the head in the same order.

Resist the temptation to cross from stud to bolt as you go along, that won't allow the studs to pull the head into its correct place in the horizontal plane and it'll probably not last.

Re: re torquing sprint head

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:37 pm
by kevs172
thanks john,i shall go out and do it now

Re: re torquing sprint head

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:15 pm
by Mad Mart
I agree with John. But don't torque them to 55 lb ft as per Mr. Haynes, go to 58lb ft.

Re: re torquing sprint head

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:18 am
by xvivalve
Incrementally!

Re: re torquing sprint head

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:18 am
by Mad Mart
Precisely!

Re: re torquing sprint head

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:41 am
by Jon Tilson
Okay but the guys is asking about retorquing an existing head. So what's the feeling about this?
Should you loosen them all first and start again, in which case should you drain the block first to prevent seepage. That way the angled studs pull into position, then you clamp the bolts.

If you just tighten the head studs first without loosening the bolts you will impose a stress, but against this must be set the thought that loosening the bolts first may break the seal.

Your thoughts please...

Jonners

Re: re torquing sprint head

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:13 am
by trackerjack
I would never loosen them all at once because that could break the head seal, but do them one at a time by loosening and retorqueing, in any order you like but I still go to pattern as suggested by Mart & Alun etc.

Re: re torquing sprint head

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:29 pm
by Mondeo Owner
How often does this need doing?

I suspect mine had it done not too long ago and it doesn't get regular use at the moment.

Re: re torquing sprint head

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:02 pm
by Carl
The sequence given above is in the Haynes and Factory workshop manual. However, read xvivalve's post in this ...

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Re: re torquing sprint head

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:18 pm
by kevs172
i did mine last night,it definately needed doing,thats the 4th time i ve done it since the motor was built 3000 miles ago,thanks for the help. kevin

Re: re torquing sprint head

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:49 pm
by mahony
Mondeo Owner wrote:How often does this need doing?

I suspect mine had it done not too long ago and it doesn't get regular use at the moment.
I have owned a sprint since 1986 ( same car ) and have never had the head re- torqued at any stage,maybe im lucky :)

Re: re torquing sprint head

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:02 pm
by Mondeo Owner
mahony wrote:
Mondeo Owner wrote:How often does this need doing?

I suspect mine had it done not too long ago and it doesn't get regular use at the moment.
I have owned a sprint since 1986 ( same car ) and have never had the head re- torqued at any stage,maybe im lucky :)
kevs172 wrote:i did mine last night,it definately needed doing,thats the 4th time i ve done it since the motor was built 3000 miles ago,thanks for the help. kevin
So that's somewhere between not at all and regularly? :D

Re: re torquing sprint head

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:52 pm
by trackerjack
There is a huge difference in what a car is used for and many club cars would expire in a few miles if used how some of us use them on a race circuit!
After a head gasket is done I warm the engine and let it cool to cold then retorque, 100 gentle miles and retorque, give it some beans now and retorque at 300 or so.
Retorque after a track day................if the car has survived :lol:

Re: re torquing sprint head

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:21 am
by Jon Tilson
So is the recieved wisdom then to back each one off in turn and retorque?

Which order do you use then? The factory manual or the Alun N approach?

I think the Alun method would prevent movement of nead relative to block and gasket, but building one form scratch I'd use the factory order for first tightening.

Jonners