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Too much Camber?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:11 pm
by Mad Mart
I was down the spray shop the other week and Jon had this in for some minor repairs...
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It made me laugh so much I had to take some pics. I've seen this before on Youtube, even worse than this. Maybe it's because I'm getting on a bit but, seriously? Apart from being dangerous I don't see how this sort of thing can be allowed on the road.

Re: Too much Camber?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:38 pm
by Carledo
You can see from the tyremarks in the sprayshop dust, just how little of the rear tyre is actually in contact with the road!
I spend (probably too much) time on the Retro Rides forum where cars like this abound and there are threads about just how much stretch you can put on your tyres before plod will take an unhealthy interest! Like you Mart, I must be getting old, cos all I think when I see this, is "how lousy will the handling be?" and "I wonder how long the tyres will last"
I only once fell into the trap of doing "scene oriented" suspension mods, a MkII Consul it was and I put 10" jacking shackles on the rear springs (in my defence, it was the 70s and I was very young) This lasted about a week before I got fed up with the car falling over its feet every time a corner appeared on the horizon and I returned it to a much more standard appearance. Form over function, style over substance, NEVER AGAIN!
Now I don't really care what the stance is like, so long as it WORKS properly!

Steve

Re: Too much Camber?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:39 pm
by trackerjack
Of course you are indeed getting old 8) however you show this fact by being right :D

Lets just hope he is a poser and never finds the limit.
We have just discussed rear brakes being too powerful and locking up and with this fella's set up the tyre contact patch would be so small it would lock up easily.
On the other hand its a good way to make a FWD car oversteer and hence perfect to drift with.

Re: Too much Camber?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:12 am
by geeksteve
I must be getting old, and I'm only 28 (82 first thing in the morning). Lowering a car I can understand (it looks good IMHO), but not until it's scraping the ground. And camber like that is just... Well if I saw a car like that at the side of the road I'd assume it was broken.

Steve

Re: Too much Camber?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:57 pm
by Mahesh
I saw something similar a few months ago and thought he went over a speed bump too fast.

Re: Too much Camber?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:04 pm
by matienzo
I can do this with my Disco by dropping the air suspension.....but with the flick of a switch I can jack it up again and drive over a beer mat. That's cool.....this isn't!
:lol:

Re: Too much Camber?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:32 pm
by Carledo
Yes I'm quite certain that THIS :-

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Looks much better than THIS :-

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But more to the point, it works much better lowered, but is not lowered to the point of ridiculousness (is this even a word?) and all the wheels are more or less vertical!

Steve

Okay guys...

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:04 pm
by sprint95m
What make of car is that?

Is it a Peugeot by any chance? Not meaning to sound sarcastic, but most 305s, 309s, 306s, 205s, etc end up this way.
Tyres don't last and it is very dear to get sorted :shock: , meaning a lot got scrapped.





Ian.

Re: Okay guys...

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:21 pm
by Carledo
sprint95m wrote:What make of car is that?

Is it a Peugeot by any chance? Not meaning to sound sarcastic, but most 305s, 309s, 306s, 205s, etc end up this way.
Tyres don't last and it is very dear to get sorted :shock: , meaning a lot got scrapped.





Ian.
It's a VW, Lupo, or possibly an Up

Steve

Re: Too much Camber?

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:49 am
by Dolly-Dimple
Its a Lupo.

Im 32 and have never understood this sort of thing, each to their own and all but i just find it ridiculous personally.

Re: Too much Camber?

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:30 pm
by red&black
Forgive my ignorance,but does anybody know how they do this please?
There are a few like it round here (mostly VW's actually),and they always make me laugh.

James

Re: Too much Camber?

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:44 pm
by Dolly-Dimple
I've always wondered that too James!!

Re: Too much Camber?

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:28 pm
by geeksteve
Remove stub axle/hub and they put a wedge shaped shim under it. They look very sturdy.....
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Re: Too much Camber?

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:11 pm
by trackerjack
I have 2 Quantums and these cars are based on a Fiesta XR2 and the rear wheels seem upright with no visible camber, my wife, being a driving instructor has a brand new Fiesta Eco boost and that car looks like it has about 2 deg neg on the back.
All three of them corner well however.

Re: Too much Camber?

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:02 pm
by Edin Dundee
I don't see the point - why do this? I guess some people must think it "looks cool". I can't think of any practical advantages?