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High level brake light - now fitted
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:58 am
by alolympic
Has anyone managed to fit one that doesn't look out of keeping?
I am sold on them being a safety plus point. I know our cars have survived without one for many years, but I think their widespread application has changed what many drivers look for as the signal that a car is braking now. Anything that helps wake up the average driver on auto pilot will make me feel a bit less paranoid.
I want to fit one, but can't find one that won't look out of keeping. I definitely don't want one fitted to the parcel shelf, so that leaves roof mounted. Anyone cracked it?
Re: High level brake light?
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:17 am
by cliftyhanger
Got some cheapy ones that stick to the rear window. Came from china and about £3, thought they were worth a punt. Been working fine on our classic mini.
And you are right to think they are a good idea. Our cars seem to have the lights lower down and near impossible for many drivers to actually see. Or rather, they don't bother to look or notice.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-DC-12V-Ca ... SwVFlT10OQ
There may be an oe version that is tidier?
Re: High level brake light?
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:25 pm
by alolympic
cliftyhanger wrote:Got some cheapy ones that stick to the rear window. Came from china and about £3, thought they were worth a punt. Been working fine on our classic mini.
And you are right to think they are a good idea. Our cars seem to have the lights lower down and near impossible for many drivers to actually see. Or rather, they don't bother to look or notice.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-DC-12V-Ca ... SwVFlT10OQ
There may be an oe version that is tidier?
Thanks, could try one of those and see how discreet it looks.
After another search, it looks like someone had already cracked this, very nice solution -
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=25000&hilit=High+level
Re: High level brake light?
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:22 pm
by AlanH
Re: High level brake light?
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:58 pm
by Toledo Man
A possible alternative would be to fit LED bulbs for the stop/tail lights. They're brighter and light up marginally quicker than filament bulbs which could make enough difference to avoid being rear-ended. You will either need red coloured bulbs or the warm white ones. The cool white bulbs look a bit washed-out and pale through the coloured lenses.
Re: High level brake light?
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:46 pm
by Dolly-Dimple
Now that does indeed look the part!
Re: High level brake light?
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:53 pm
by tom16v
I bought the one from this post
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=25000&hilit=High+level
Its currently fitted to my Saphire Sprint and is very discrete and effective. It is beautifully made from wood and shaped metal. I'm sure the right person (I have no such skills) could replicate it if people were keen enough.
Re: High level brake light?
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:06 pm
by alolympic
Toledo Man wrote:A possible alternative would be to fit LED bulbs for the stop/tail lights. They're brighter and light up marginally quicker than filament bulbs which could make enough difference to avoid being rear-ended. You will either need red coloured bulbs or the warm white ones. The cool white bulbs look a bit washed-out and pale through the coloured lenses.
Yes, recently fitted some excellent LED's and they certainly brighten things up. I still want a high level light too, as I think these are the most visible. I have actually ordered one now, from eBay. Arrived yesterday. I will be fitting it within the middle roof vent. It is nice and small, so discreet and will hopefully be bright enough.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131020847926? ... EBIDX%3AIT
Re: High level brake light?
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:08 pm
by alolympic
tom16v wrote:I bought the one from this post
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=25000&hilit=High+level
Its currently fitted to my Saphire Sprint and is very discrete and effective. It is beautifully made from wood and shaped metal. I'm sure the right person (I have no such skills) could replicate it if people were keen enough.
You're lucky, I think it is a beautiful solution. Like you, I don't think I could manage to fabricate one...
Re: High level brake light?
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:29 pm
by cliftyhanger
Please tell of source of the decent led brake/tail bulbs. All the ones I have seen so far have been hopeless!
Re: High level brake light?
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:27 pm
by alolympic
cliftyhanger wrote:Please tell of source of the decent led brake/tail bulbs. All the ones I have seen so far have been hopeless!
Not cheap I'm afraid but the Cree LED's really are worth paying for (I discovered them as bike lights first).
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151843788725? ... EBIDX%3AIT
Re: High level brake light?
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:56 pm
by Toledo Man
The stop/tail bulbs were bought from
HERE
Re: High level brake light?
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:23 am
by Pippin
Re: High level brake light?
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:31 pm
by Great Lakes Sprint
I came up with a solution for this that I’m quite happy with.
I bought the part from
https://www.ronfrancis.com/products.asp?dept=25. I got RW-12, with a 30-degree angle to the plastic housing. That part number doesn’t seem to be listed anymore, but maybe they still have it. The wiring was just long enough to reach the brake-light connector in the boot.
The custom mount uses a really strong magnet to grab through the headliner. Then it has an adjustable elbow to connect, via a screw, to the plastic LED housing. I can’t direct you to a place to buy such a setup online, but maybe this will give you some ideas to work with.
In any case, if you mount something on the passenger-compartment side of the glass, you’ll want some sort of shroud housing in order to avoid nasty, distracting reflections while driving at night.
Re: High level brake light?
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 5:13 pm
by alolympic
Happy New Year all!
So, I finally got around to tackling this today.
In actual fact it was very simple. I just spliced into the drivers side brake light wire, one live, one for earth. Fed the new wires though the side of the boot, via the inside of the C pillar and fed through to the roof, above the headlining and out of the centre roof vent. Brake light then secured in the vent itself.
It works fine, I think is discreet, and is good and bright (although not as bright as the new LED brake lights which are VERY bright). I'm pretty happy that it will make braking more noticeable.
Total cost, less than a tenner, and probably a 15 minute job once I decided where to fit etc.
Here are some quick phone photos if anybody is interested in doing similar.
