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Erratic idle (1850) - SOLVED
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:08 pm
by Toledo Man
Since Tuesday's West Yorkshire meeting, I've noticed that the car has an erratic idle. I took the opportunity to get it on video and I've uploaded it to
YouTube If anybody has any ideas of what it could be please let me know. The carbs have been balanced and I'm getting a spark at all 4 plugs although they could do with replacing along with the HT leads.
Re: Erratic idle (1850)
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:47 pm
by matt of the vivas
Check for an air leak - make sure the gaskets at the inlet manifold to head and inlet manifold to carbs are not leaking. Block off the brake servo and advance / retard pipes and try it - both have diaphrams in that can fail and allow an air leak. If that checks out then look at the carbs again - have you got waxstat jets?
Why did you balance the carbs? Was it doing it before you balanced them?
Re: Erratic idle (1850)
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:55 pm
by Mahesh
I've had exactly the same problem whenever I do the mixture on the carbs.
Starts off like yours Dave and some adjusting later stops.
If this happened for no reason check your jets and the
connection to the float chamber. (clean the chambers out as well)
Re: Erratic idle (1850)
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:46 am
by Toledo Man
At the meeting, I was adjusting the idle screws so I thought I might've got the carbs out of balance. I'll fit a new set of spark plugs first. They need replacing anyway.
Re: Erratic idle (1850)
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:14 am
by Jon Tilson
Air leak somewhere. You can even hear the hiss....
Jonners
Re: Erratic idle (1850)
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:28 am
by GTS290N
Fit the club alloy mounts.
Re: Erratic idle (1850)
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:32 am
by Galileo
In my experience, hunting like that is usually an air leak as said or too rich a mixture. Try spraying around spindle with WD40/carb cleaner.
Re: Erratic idle (1850)
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:32 pm
by Toledo Man
I've fitted new spark plugs and I've topped up the dashpots too and it hasn't made any difference. I will be fitting solid carb mounts in the future so in the meantime I'll seal the rubber carb mounts with some sealant.
Re: Erratic idle (1850)
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:39 pm
by Mahesh
Mine only does exactly that when I change the mixture,
are you sure a lump of greasy splodge has not got caught
between the jet and jet bearing kit nut when you pulled the choke out.
Another I noticed when rebuilding is the is a small dimple on the jet, if yours has broken off it would throw the mix out to the other.
Sorry, just remembered your on Strombergs, seems a shame to delete after typing.
Re: Erratic idle (1850)
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:59 pm
by markas
Can certainly recommend the club alloy mounts. had them fitted over the winter & the kickdown cable adjusted, which apparently also strongly influences tickover behaviour. Car now idles at a rock steady 650 rpm.
Hope you get it sorted.
Mark
Re: Erratic idle (1850)
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:21 am
by Toledo Man
Mark, I'll be getting solid carb mounts. Until then I'll use some sealant as a short term fix. I'll take another look at my kickdown cable as well.
Mahesh, I'm on SU carbs so you haven't totally wasted your time.
Re: Erratic idle (1850)
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:30 am
by Mahesh
Instead of sealant, use gaffer tape if it's only for checking and not a permanent fix.
Re: Erratic idle (1850)
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:34 am
by Toledo Man
The sealant will be used in place of the gaskets to eliminate the possibility of any air leaks there. I think the cracks on the rubber mounts are just on the outside. I'll find out when I take them off.
Re: Erratic idle (1850)
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:33 am
by Karlos
With the engine running, you could spray the carb mounts with any light penetrating oil. If the idle speed changes you will then know you have leaking mounts due to poor mating or decrepit rubber on the mounts. No need to dismantle.
Have you checked your breather pipes too? Last set I hd lasted about 10 months and then went hard and split apart. I now use some non-standard tubing.
If the carb butterflies and/or idle speeds are unbalanced that will not necessarily cause an irratic idle.
Good luck with the investigation.
Re: Erratic idle (1850)
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:00 am
by xvivalve
He was good, but I still prefer Palin, Chapman and Cleese.