The Triumph Dolomite Club - Discussion Forum

Need to change some brake pipes on my late sprint, after consideration of making them myself, costly as will need to buy a flaring tool which I would probably only use maybe a couple of times in my life time or automec set ready made or this set I have found on eBay at quite a reasonable price , anyone else bought from them ebay item 302309931073 , sorry not a clue how to do a proper link.

If I do embark on making them myself am I right in thinking its 3/16th pipe I need.

Thanks in advance

Rich

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10pc-METRIC-P ... SwTuJYndWp

Had one of those for 20 years or more. At least it looks identical. Only used the smallest bit,and yeas, 3/16 pipe, ideally kunifer.

The tool works but you need a very clean cut of the pipe. Good thing is you can make the pipe to really fit. The last automec set I fitted all the pipes were a bit too long, which is worse than it sounds. That is when I bought the tool......

I keep original steel patterns for all Dolomite brake pipes and would be pleased to make you bespoke ones to exact lengths in copper or Kunifer (your choice, but Kunifer recommended). Whether Automec or any other brand, you always seem to get a "bit extra for luck" in bought in sets. Which can be infuriating sometimes! But they have this "one set fits all" mentality when, in truth, there are subtle variations from model to model.
Mine are probably slightly more expensive than an Automec set, but every one is made individually for the customer and WILL fit! I will also supply part sets.

Steve

cliftyhanger wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:24 pm http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10pc-METRIC-P ... SwTuJYndWp

Had one of those for 20 years or more. At least it looks identical. Only used the smallest bit,and yeas, 3/16 pipe, ideally kunifer.

The tool works but you need a very clean cut of the pipe. Good thing is you can make the pipe to really fit. The last automec set I fitted all the pipes were a bit too long, which is worse than it sounds. That is when I bought the tool......

Got to disagree with you Clive, which is a rarity indeed .

I have a professional flaring tool (which costs about £120 today I think) but needed to flare bigger pipes
so bought a cheap flaring set as it was readily available (unlike the dies for the tool I had).
Whilst said cheap tool does work it is hard going. I have now sourced the dies.

Unbeknown to me a friend already had one of these sets which I could have borrowed,
he has had me make up brake pipes for him, which rather says what he thinks of his flaring tool?

I am thinking Rich would be better advised to be buying ready made from Steve.



Kunifer brake pipe sets (and individual or bespoke pipes) have been available to TDC members for quite a number of years at cost price (which is under £30 delivered)
but the uptake has been very underwhelming at precisely one set to date.



Ian.

Ah yes, if Steve is making them that is a better solution!
But Steve does agree that the pre-made sets are usually too long!And I admit the expensive flaring tools are much easier, but the cheap ones do work, just slow and a bit fiddly. But as I do about 2 or 3 pipes a year (on average) that is OK. If using regularly the cheapo ones are adequate. All IMHO!

It's an odd week when I DON'T make 2 or 3 pipes! Not necessarily for Triumph! My Sykes/Pickavent professional flaring tool cost well over £200 when i bought it 20 something years ago, but it can cope easily with steel, copper or Kunifer and does pipes in 3/16", 1/4", 5/16", 3/8", 4.75, 6, 8 and 10mm. I dread to think how many flares it has produced over the years, it was certainly one of my better investments!

I do have a smaller hand size tool as well (The SP is a vise mount) but this is only used to flare pipes on the car when it is more practical to make a part pipe and join it into the original (rarely that is!)

Steve

Ian are the brake pipe sets still available as I don’t see them in the spares list.
Cheers
Rich

When I bought an 1850 auto a few years ago, the owner had tried to fit a brake pipe kit but gave up as all the pipes were too long.

The kit he had bought also had zinc plated fittings. Using my Automec flaring too I trimmed the pipes to the correct size and fitted brass unions.

I did also find that using the originals as patterns you can make a pipe that appears to be too long just the right length.

Deburring the outer and inner diameters is important, I also blow through with an airline, the ends should be reasonably square but not perfect as the forming process corrects this.

I am not a cunifer fan and always use copper and there are two wall thickness for the 3/16 copper pipe and I use the thicker version.

Happy fitting.

Malcolm

rich wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:25 pm Ian are the brake pipe sets still available as I don’t see them in the spares list.
Cheers
Rich

I think you just contact Steve direct, and he will make what you require.

I got my pipes ready made from Stevsons. However a couple of pipes needed to be redone as the measurements on file were not quite right. I would have liked to have fully made my own but the cost of the tool was prohibitive.

Rich has been in touch, but he has some custom requirements for his car that I am having trouble meeting, specifically a non Sprint rear flexi hose, which Goodridge don't list separately (In fact they don't list NON Sprint Dolomites at all, only a vague reference to Toledo with POA on it) I'm gonna try and get a measurement of a new one that I have on my own Sprint and see if Dave's guy will make one, but I've been manically busy at work recently! The metal pipes, even to Richs custom requirements, are no problem, i've worked it all out!

Steve

but I've been manically busy at work recently! The metal pipes, even to Richs custom requirements, are no problem, i've worked it all out!

Steve
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That will teach you to work on non TDC cars
Cheers,
Tony.
Ps Hope it's going ok now

cliftyhanger wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:24 pm http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10pc-METRIC-P ... SwTuJYndWp

Had one of those for 20 years or more. At least it looks identical. Only used the smallest bit,and yeas, 3/16 pipe, ideally kunifer.

The tool works but you need a very clean cut of the pipe. Good thing is you can make the pipe to really fit. The last automec set I fitted all the pipes were a bit too long, which is worse than it sounds. That is when I bought the tool......

I had a cheap one of those flaring kits and found it very hard to get a nice clean flair.
As a compromise over spending $$$$ on a sykes kit I went for one of these:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brake-Pipe-Fla ... B01009L9F0
Found it easy to use and good quality results every time.

I bought a non sprint rear flexy (to use with LSV removed) from ebay.Think its listed for 1850. I'll see if I can find the seller

Tony

Carledo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:25 pm Rich has been in touch, but he has some custom requirements for his car that I am having trouble meeting, specifically a non Sprint rear flexi hose, which Goodridge don't list separately (In fact they don't list NON Sprint Dolomites at all, only a vague reference to Toledo with POA on it) I'm gonna try and get a measurement of a new one that I have on my own Sprint and see if Dave's guy will make one, but I've been manically busy at work recently! The metal pipes, even to Richs custom requirements, are no problem, i've worked it all out!

Steve

Here's the guy
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MINI-PRE-197 ... QxzxLEhBnA

Not listing one at the mo but message him and he'll be very helpful. He lets me collect from his house which is very handy when your master cylinder needs repairing immediately (after new old stock girling crumbled in my hands when trying to fit the seal)

Tony