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Sprint front brake pads
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:55 am
by tangocharlie1
I have noticed the club don't list front brake pads for sale, what is everyone using ? my last set were mintex and i would like to use the same again but i have noticed they are very expensive, i what to keep it all reasonably standard and i don't like the greenstuff EBC pads i have used in the past. I know it is not every ones favourite place but i have noticed RB selling "Standard" Front Brake Pads for £13.00 i am suspicious as this seems very reasonable for them, are they any good or should i just shell out for the mintex set ?
Re: Sprint front brake pads
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:24 am
by xvivalve
All being well, a revised Club Spares list will be available soon, taking advantage of a new wholesale account we now have. Front pads will be on there, but I'm unsure of brand at the moment...I shall try for Mintex...
Re: Sprint front brake pads
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:41 am
by tangocharlie1
Thanks alun that is good news i will hang fire for a while.
Re: Sprint front brake pads
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:37 pm
by Jon Tilson
Back in the days when Sprints were young etc... they were supplied OE with a different grade of pad material to go with the slightly bigger
servo (honest guv).
As time went on and various "suppliers" started using pads of non descript make ( my worst was a set of moprods which were down to the filings in a month) and the Sprints reputation for having inadequate brakes was no doubt amplified by this poor state of affairs. Then they banned asbestos too....
Still it gave our own Trackerjack something to do in his old age...and fair play to him for that.
We also have to contend with modern cars all having much superior brakes and larger tyre contact patches compared to cars from the classic period.
Even so a Sprint on decent or OE spec mintex pads is still capable of handling all but four up trips on long mountain passes like Stelvio.
So do us proud on the pads mate...and fit them to 1850's too.
Jonners
Re: Sprint front brake pads
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:55 pm
by Len Hughes
The TR5/6 brigade now swear by Hawk HPS pads for road use. Not used them on mine but will do when its time to change.
Re: Sprint front brake pads
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:48 pm
by DOLOMITE 135
I use Mintex MGB535 pads on my dolomite, these are available via on-line auction, and other sites for £13.00 to £14.00.
Other Mintex pads are available that have the MGB535 prefix, but have an addition suffix such as MGB535 M1166, MGB535 M1155 & MGB535 M1144 which are much dearer at £50.00 to £88.00.
Re: Sprint front brake pads
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:27 pm
by Galileo
My 1973-75 Sprint parts book only lists a BMC part number GBP 105 for the pads, which my old Girling cross reference book says is 64326961MR for Austin, Hillman, Morris, Plymouth. The 1850 has the same code but with a QW on the end.
A later Girling part book also gives GDB 535 MR as an alternative for 64326961MR, I don't have any cross reference guides older than 1972 though but cross references to:
Austin Maxi 1500 and Super Maxi 1750
Hillman Avenger GT
Morris Marina 1.3 (Swedish market)
Morris Marina 1.8 (w/ optional servo)
So I guess a lot of what the likes of Ferodo, LPR etc sell as a GBP 105 more than likely is not and probably just the more common softer QW variety of the pad.
I'm not sure that's really useful to a lot of people on the forum who are well are of all of this, but I've typed it now!
Re: Sprint front brake pads
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:34 pm
by marko
DOLOMITE 135 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:48 pm
I use Mintex MGB535 pads on my dolomite, these are available via on-line auction, and other sites for £13.00 to £14.00.
Other Mintex pads are available that have the MGB535 prefix, but have an addition suffix such as MGB535 M1166, MGB535 M1155 & MGB535 M1144 which are much dearer at £50.00 to £88.00.
Look at this on eBay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401252415903
Re: Sprint front brake pads
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:53 pm
by Galileo
Mintex M1144 is probably the way to go according to others experience here, but it is interesting the Mintex list of equivalent numbers, eg GBP127 which is 64326961PA differ mostly on the last two letters, be interesting to know that they mean, anyone?
Re: Sprint front brake pads
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:32 pm
by DOLOMITE 135
This is the type I use on my 1850:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-MINTEX-FR ... SwAYtWMyFX
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MINTEX-BRAKE- ... SwYIxX5CZf
The Mintex boxes I have in my spares reference MGB535 M1109/1, which I presume is an indication of the compound.
Are the other compounds suitable for road use?
Re: Sprint front brake pads
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:45 pm
by zombeh
DOLOMITE 135 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:48 pm
I use Mintex MGB535 pads on my dolomite, these are available via on-line auction, and other sites for £13.00 to £14.00.
Other Mintex pads are available that have the MGB535 prefix, but have an addition suffix such as MGB535 M1166, MGB535 M1155 & MGB535 M1144 which are much dearer at £50.00 to £88.00.
MGB535 is the shape of the pad, M11XX are friction material
If it just says MGB535 then it's a sensible material for use on the road (M1109), works from stone cold, isn't overly dusty or noisy and has been through whatever tests are required to stick a CE logo on the box.
1144 works from cold and is a sort of fast road/sprint/hillclimb sort of a pad. They'd cover your wheels in dust, wear your discs away and probably make the not very well cooled dolly brakes rather hot very quickly. I *think* that was what I had in when I set fire to mine after a couple of laps of Goodwood.
1155 takes a fraction of a second to get up to temperature, will tolerate being rather hotter for longer and is for short races, track days, that sort of thing.
1166 is a race pad.
All three of those will say "not for road use" on the box.
What the standard Mintex material is closest to in terms of original spec is anyone's guess, those pads fit loads of different cars and there were probably 15 or 20 different ones back in the 70s.
Re: Sprint front brake pads
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:39 pm
by GTS290N
zombeh wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:45 pm
DOLOMITE 135 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:48 pm
I use Mintex MGB535 pads on my dolomite, these are available via on-line auction, and other sites for £13.00 to £14.00.
Other Mintex pads are available that have the MGB535 prefix, but have an addition suffix such as MGB535 M1166, MGB535 M1155 & MGB535 M1144 which are much dearer at £50.00 to £88.00.
MGB535 is the shape of the pad, M11XX are friction material
If it just says MGB535 then it's a sensible material for use on the road (M1109), works from stone cold, isn't overly dusty or noisy and has been through whatever tests are required to stick a CE logo on the box.
1144 works from cold and is a sort of fast road/sprint/hillclimb sort of a pad. They'd cover your wheels in dust, wear your discs away and probably make the not very well cooled dolly brakes rather hot very quickly. I *think* that was what I had in when I set fire to mine after a couple of laps of Goodwood.
1155 takes a fraction of a second to get up to temperature, will tolerate being rather hotter for longer and is for short races, track days, that sort of thing.
1166 is a race pad.
All three of those will say "not for road use" on the box.
What the standard Mintex material is closest to in terms of original spec is anyone's guess, those pads fit loads of different cars and there were probably 15 or 20 different ones back in the 70s.
I've just bought a set of boxed MGB535 pads, thought they would be standard but are 1144, paid £13.50 including shipping.
No use to me, if anyone wants them they're £13.45 plus shipping, or will try to negotiate with the seller and return.
Edit: Update:
There's an idiot on this forum, and he's typing this at the moment! The pads are indeed M1109, this nugget was hidden by another label. The 144 I saw on the label in passing is nothing to do with M1144. So the pads are correct.